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Re: deer on ice [Re: BOBO the Clown] #5433033 11/20/14 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Actually if you want to get technical dry aging is a process and just sticking meat in a walk in cooler will make you sick.



ya ok your deer hangs at the proccesor sometimes for weeks and not on purpose. if you thinking hanging meat for a week at 35 dg makes you sick but leaving it on ice for a week doesnt just shows your lack of knowledg on the subject



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The best venison I have ever ate (I eat a lot) was a mule deer buck from NM. My buddy who shot it was only interested in the horns and asked if I would take the meat. Heck yea bring it to me. Shot it on the first day of his trip skinned, quartered and put on ice. Guide kept the straps I got the quarters delivered to me a week later. I kept it on ice for another week. Sliced into to steaks and stew meat and it was outstanding. VERY tender and tasty. Wife loved it and can't wait for me to get her a mulie. up


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Re: deer on ice [Re: rhinomills] #5433065 11/20/14 03:19 PM
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I tried something new this year. I hung one deer in a walk in cooler and had one on ice. Both set for a week. The one in the walk in cooler was easy to work when I started processing. The one in the cooler with ice was more difficult to work with because it was still pretty moist. I got to thinking so the next deer was placed in a cooler with dry ice (buddy works at the grocery). We put just enough ice in the cooler to cool it off but not freeze it. The ticket. All deer were skinned and quartered. It's good to know somebody who has packed food with dry ice because if you over do it will freeze the deer solid.


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Re: deer on ice [Re: vanguard] #5433073 11/20/14 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted By: vanguard
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Actually if you want to get technical dry aging is a process and just sticking meat in a walk in cooler will make you sick.



ya ok your deer hangs at the proccesor sometimes for weeks and not on purpose. if you thinking hanging meat for a week at 35 dg makes you sick but leaving it on ice for a week doesnt just shows your lack of knowledg on the subject


Not what I said.... And your using dry aging loosely its a process, not just sticking meat in a walkin cooler that seldom gets below 40 degrees. There is a reason meat will mold in a walk in cooler very quickly compared to a dry age facility. All my steaks from the feedlot are dry age for 24-30days before I pick them up. If you actually been in a commercial dry aging operation then you would retract your statement


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Re: deer on ice [Re: rhinomills] #5433094 11/20/14 03:27 PM
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My outfitter in Canada hangs his meat, deer, buffalo, whatever until it gets what looks like mold on the outside. He then trims the mold off, and debones the carcass. Some of the best food I have eaten at any camp is at his place.




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I go 10 days on ice often.


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Just to make sure that it is done thoroughly, I go both ways.

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Gota have a taste for it I guess iv tried dry aging and it tasted way to much like old beef. It was interesting for sure but would rather it be right off the bone

Re: deer on ice [Re: Navasot] #5433135 11/20/14 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted By: Navasot
Gota have a taste for it I guess iv tried dry aging and it tasted way to much like old beef. It was interesting for sure but would rather it be right off the bone


Dry aging version can actually enhance the gamey flavor. When you dry age your essentially dehydrating the meat very slowly while the natural eynzems are breaking it down. Basically tenderizing and concentrating the flavor



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Re: deer on ice [Re: vanguard] #5433169 11/20/14 03:52 PM
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Never said anything about aging meat. I simply am trying to bleed it out, to get the most blood out that I can.

I'll leave the aging process to beef, my venison isn't going anywhere but the grinder .


fine but i do hate to dissapoint, you arent doing nothing to bleed it out. i dont care if you leave a hind in ice water for a week, take it out and start slicing, guess what full of blood.
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This is flat false. You're wrong.

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Here's a picture of 2 deer quarters from the same deer. 1 bled out over an ice rotation, 1 kept right at 32 degrees in the fridge.

You'll notice one still has a large amount of blood in it and one, well, doesn't.



Again, same deer, 2 hind quarters.

I'd also be curious to hear your explanation of why each day when the water is released, it's bright red. Maybe magic is changing it?

Re: deer on ice [Re: Navasot] #5433201 11/20/14 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted By: Navasot
Gota have a taste for it I guess iv tried dry aging and it tasted way to much like old beef. It was interesting for sure but would rather it be right off the bone

Nav there is a difference in a good cut of meat that was aged vs hamburger that was made into to chili then dried out for 2 weeks in the fridge grin


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Originally Posted By: vanguard
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Never said anything about aging meat. I simply am trying to bleed it out, to get the most blood out that I can.

I'll leave the aging process to beef, my venison isn't going anywhere but the grinder .


fine but i do hate to dissapoint, you arent doing nothing to bleed it out. i dont care if you leave a hind in ice water for a week, take it out and start slicing, guess what full of blood.


WRONG!!! Do a little more research next time.


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Re: deer on ice [Re: stxranchman] #5433407 11/20/14 05:31 PM
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Gota have a taste for it I guess iv tried dry aging and it tasted way to much like old beef. It was interesting for sure but would rather it be right off the bone

Nav there is a difference in a good cut of meat that was aged vs hamburger that was made into to chili then dried out for 2 weeks in the fridge grin


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So, ice and water doesn't help get the blood out of the meat ??? Hmmm The water in my cooler is plenty bloody. The more days its in the cooler , the less bloody the water. After a few days on ice, the meat seems to change color also. I cant imagine where that blood is coming from, if not out of the meat. Cause I shot the deer in the head and i didn't stick the head in with the meat.. Hmmm. ??

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Originally Posted By: Gangly
Once quartered and deboned, I'll stick the meet in an ice chest full of ice/water/salt brine solution to let the meat bleed out. I drain the water once a day and replace any ice that has melted. I do this for a minimum of 1 week prior to packaging and freezing. The meat has always come out great, tender, and with very little "gamey taste" as my wife calls it.
and devoid of taste and dry as shoe leather. I never let red meat soak. You are just taking all the natural juices out fo the meat.


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I quarter and put on ice but check the ice daily and refresh. Tilt the cooler with drain plug loose to let the melted water drain away, I don't want mine in water . I will leave it on ice at least 5 days and have gone as long as 10 days. There is little blood left as noted in above pictures. the meat at least seems more tender when cutting. I don't know if it actually does anything for flavor since I have never noticed any difference but since I butcher my own and do not have fridge space to store or a walk in, I use the ice chest method and it works great and has for MANY years now.

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I do 7 to 10 days. drain and replace daily. taste great and always tender to me.


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When I was a kid, there was a guy named Ivan that ran Mr Harvey's meat dept in that old store. The best steaks ever. Ivan knew what he was doing and he wouldn't sell something before it was ready. I remember the NY strips and ribeyes no less than 1" thick. He made my Dad look like a grill master for sure! Lol


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Re: deer on ice [Re: rhinomills] #5434209 11/21/14 12:13 AM
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Your screen name is bullfrog, but your pic is a tree frog.

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We use Ice chests immediately after harvest and never let the quarters sit in water. I like to use the cloth game bags as well. Maybe the front quarters are in water but never the rears. Then once we get home we've got an extra fridge that we use. We place our quarters in there and let them sit for a week or so. Then I process at home. Meat is nice and red and we've only noticed a few cuts that were gamey. My family will eat 3-4 deer in a year easily.

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The stress the deer is under between being shot and expiring has more to do with gamey flavor than blood, no blood.

That said, I still bleed the meat for a week.

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Your screen name is bullfrog, but your pic is a tree frog.


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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
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Gota have a taste for it I guess iv tried dry aging and it tasted way to much like old beef. It was interesting for sure but would rather it be right off the bone

Nav there is a difference in a good cut of meat that was aged vs hamburger that was made into to chili then dried out for 2 weeks in the fridge grin



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Originally Posted By: Navasot
Gota have a taste for it I guess iv tried dry aging and it tasted way to much like old beef. It was interesting for sure but would rather it be right off the bone

Nav there is a difference in a good cut of meat that was aged vs hamburger that was made into to chili then dried out for 2 weeks in the fridge grin


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hey you would be surprised... it makes the meat taste sweeta

But I did have this from an actual cook who made a living doing this... still didn't like it.

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