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#5430703 - 11/19/14 07:18 AM Muzzle brake vs Suppressor.....
Deerhunter61 Offline
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Registered: 08/27/08
Posts: 6561
Loc: DFW
Guys,

I am wondering if a suppressor, can, is more effective at reducing recoil than a muzzle brake or vise versa? I went to the range yesterday and there were three young guys there and one of them had a 338 win mag that had a suppressor on it. We got to talking and I watched him shoot it and the recoil really looked manageable...so he offered to let me shoot it. Wow! I was surprised at how tame the recoil was! Very manageable! I couldn't shoot it all day but I definitely could shoot it! Frankly spending 1400-1500 to add a can is more than I've been able to get my head around so far so I'm wondering if a brake will provide similar relief from recoil?

Thanks,

Mel

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#5430714 - 11/19/14 07:25 AM Re: Muzzle brake vs Suppressor..... [Re: Deerhunter61]
BCJ Offline
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Registered: 06/01/05
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A good muzzle brake will reduce the recoil more than a suppressor does; but a suppressor does reduce recoil in general - partially because of the added weight to the rifle and partially for delaying the release of gases that cause the recoil.
A good muzzle brake will redirect the gases to reduce the recoil at the cost of increase noise. If you are just shooting at the range with ears on then its no issue; if you plan to hunt it make the rifle defining loud.
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#5430768 - 11/19/14 07:50 AM Re: Muzzle brake vs Suppressor..... [Re: BCJ]
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^^Exactly right^^

My JEC brakes reduce recoil more than my Tiger Shark suppressor, but the suppressor is much easier on the ears. Everything is a trade off though. Suppressor may give you a second or third shot on hogs or coyotes (even deer during doe killing time) but it makes the rifle longer and barrel heavy. I only hunt suppressed now, though if that gives you any indication.
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#5430778 - 11/19/14 07:57 AM Re: Muzzle brake vs Suppressor..... [Re: Deerhunter61]
505ed Offline
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Registered: 10/15/14
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Loc: Blanco texas
I Have a number of suppressors, they seem to lengthen the recoil cycle time making it feel softer. A good muzzle break takes A lot more out of the gun, a suppressor makes the recoil less sharp...if that makes since. I will agree on pigs, if you want to shoot more pigs get a suppressor. I hunt with a suppressor about 70% of the time now. So glad Texas let us do that.

Ed

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#5430801 - 11/19/14 08:08 AM Re: Muzzle brake vs Suppressor..... [Re: Deerhunter61]
hermano W Offline
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Registered: 06/24/12
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I have a YHM muzzle brake that is the QD for my suppressor. I don't know how effective the muzzle brake is when the suppressor is attached, but the concept seemed like a good idea to me...

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#5430865 - 11/19/14 08:31 AM Re: Muzzle brake vs Suppressor..... [Re: Deerhunter61]
KRoyal Offline
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Registered: 01/24/07
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What caliber are you shooting? YHM Phantom 30cal cans are rated for magnum rounds and can be had for around $800 including stamp if you look hard.
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#5430941 - 11/19/14 09:01 AM Re: Muzzle brake vs Suppressor..... [Re: Deerhunter61]
hermano W Offline
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308 and the QD muzzle brake is just under $100. The QD that comes with the suppressor is a flash hider.

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#5430962 - 11/19/14 09:13 AM Re: Muzzle brake vs Suppressor..... [Re: Deerhunter61]
KRoyal Offline
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Sorry I was asking the OP what he was shooting. He said $1400-$1500 for a can, that's not the case.
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#5431109 - 11/19/14 10:18 AM Re: Muzzle brake vs Suppressor..... [Re: Deerhunter61]
505ed Offline
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Registered: 10/15/14
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Loc: Blanco texas
Best deal going!!'

http://www.silencershop.com/shop/aac-762sd/

I have one and a SDN-6... Great suppressors!!!

Ed

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#5431117 - 11/19/14 10:20 AM Re: Muzzle brake vs Suppressor..... [Re: KRoyal]
Txkiller Offline
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Registered: 01/22/08
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I'm not a fan of brakes but my AR in .308 came standard with the Surefire and I can tell a huge difference from the other .30 cals, this rifle weighs 10lbs loaded and it feels like I'm shooting a .556.

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#5431189 - 11/19/14 10:53 AM Re: Muzzle brake vs Suppressor..... [Re: Deerhunter61]
Judd Offline


Registered: 01/22/09
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Breaks are awesome (spelled that way just to bug Chad rofl )...I won't build a rifle without one. The recoil managment is a given but the gun just behaves better with a brake. It allows you to see what you hit/missed easier too because it helps keep the muzzle where you are when you pulled the trigger.

Having said all of that....I sent my 1st form 4 off in the mail yesterday...so in about 5-6 months I'll play with my suppressor and give you an opinion that way. wink
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#5431203 - 11/19/14 11:00 AM Re: Muzzle brake vs Suppressor..... [Re: 505ed]
TX Grubby Offline
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Registered: 01/18/14
Posts: 169
Loc: Rockwall, TX
Have the 762SD and love it. Like Fireman said, they do add weight and the 762SD is not one of the lighter models.
Originally Posted By: 505ed
Best deal going!!'

http://www.silencershop.com/shop/aac-762sd/

I have one and a SDN-6... Great suppressors!!!

Ed

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#5431364 - 11/19/14 12:13 PM Re: Muzzle brake vs Suppressor..... [Re: Judd]
ChadTRG42 Offline
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Registered: 09/16/09
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Loc: Lewisville, TX
Originally Posted By: Judd
Breaks are awesome (spelled that way just to bug Chad rofl )


#$%^&* !@#$% !!! LOL!

A couple pev's of mine=

a muzzle brake, is not spelled break! (we covered that one already!)

a Clip, is not a magazine. A magazine is not a clip!

a "Ballistic Tip" bullet is a bullet only made by NOSLER, and no other company. Other companies make plastic tip bullets, but it is not a ballistic tip.

A male deer has antlers, not horns! There is a difference!

I know of a few more, but that's all I can think of right now. If you talk to me and say "clip" referring to a magazine, you just lost all credibility with me and got docked about 20 shooting IQ points.
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#5431380 - 11/19/14 12:19 PM Re: Muzzle brake vs Suppressor..... [Re: Deerhunter61]
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I have an AAC SDN6 and love shooting with it. Brakes are nice on recoil but they sure are loud.

You could get a SilencerCo Harvester that has a brake on the end of the suppressor. $750 with the tax stamp. I have one in waiting.
http://www.silencershop.com/shop/silencerco-harvester/
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#5431434 - 11/19/14 12:50 PM Re: Muzzle brake vs Suppressor..... [Re: ChadTRG42]
Judd Offline


Registered: 01/22/09
Posts: 11164
Loc: Sachse, TX
Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42
Originally Posted By: Judd
Breaks are awesome (spelled that way just to bug Chad rofl )


#$%^&* !@#$% !!! LOL!

A couple pev's of mine=

a muzzle brake, is not spelled break! (we covered that one already!)

a Clip, is not a magazine. A magazine is not a clip!

a "Ballistic Tip" bullet is a bullet only made by NOSLER, and no other company. Other companies make plastic tip bullets, but it is not a ballistic tip.

A male deer has antlers, not horns! There is a difference!

I know of a few more, but that's all I can think of right now. If you talk to me and say "clip" referring to a magazine, you just lost all credibility with me and got docked about 20 shooting IQ points.


I'm gonna have to take notes to keep up with all your buttons rofl

I honestly never would've thought someone called all poly tipped bullets a ballistic tip, never crossed my mind as such. The antler vs horns I do sometimes just to screw with people and the clip/mag is something that is a funny spot for a lot of people. I don't care what you call it just give it back to me full grin
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