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Re: Game Warden Actions - Questionable or Legal?
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11/20/14 12:14 AM
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Sounds like the "plug" was rendered non-working without taking the gun apart. Prick move? Yeah...kinda like getting a speeding ticket for going 1mph over.
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Re: Game Warden Actions - Questionable or Legal?
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11/20/14 12:31 AM
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Sounds like the "plug" was rendered non-working without taking the gun apart. Prick move? Yeah...kinda like getting a speeding ticket for going 1mph over. Thats why i plug my tailpipes
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Re: Game Warden Actions - Questionable or Legal?
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11/20/14 12:34 AM
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I got a used shotgun on the forum last year and when I took it down to clean it the plug was a stick with blood and dove feathers stuck to it.
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Re: Game Warden Actions - Questionable or Legal?
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11/20/14 12:44 AM
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A buddy once taped two shotgun shells together and wrote "PLUG" on them. The warden checked his gun and laughed. Then picked up a corn stalk and whittled out a plug and handed it to him. No fine, but a good laugh. That was the only time I have ever seen a warden be polite.
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Re: Game Warden Actions - Questionable or Legal?
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11/20/14 12:49 AM
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Is anyone else surprised that this GW checked the same plug twice? Out of the 30+ times ive been checked, I cannot remember one instance where the GW checked my plug and then went back and checked it again. And im just speculating but if he checked it once and found no issue, why would he bother to check it again... just sounds to me like your "friend" tried to pull a fast one and got caught, followed by a horrible explanation of his innocence and how he was done wrong.
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Re: Game Warden Actions - Questionable or Legal?
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11/20/14 12:54 AM
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Just based on what I know from what you told, its a chickenshit fine for as chickenshit plug. Who fired the first chickenshit? They loose. Buddy should pay the fine then go get a non chickenshit plug.
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Re: Game Warden Actions - Questionable or Legal?
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11/20/14 01:06 AM
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Just ditch your unplugged friend.
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Re: Game Warden Actions - Questionable or Legal?
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11/20/14 01:37 AM
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Plugs are a silly anyways. Just get several shotguns and line them right next to you. Shoot three shots, pick up the next gun, shoot three shots, etc. See, legally plugged shotguns and unlimited shot capability. As far as I know there is no limit on how many shotguns you can have. And you still have a limit on how many birds you can shoot, regardless how many shots you can fire. It is a speed trap for wardens, kind of like the stupid log for whitetail on the back of your license.
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Re: Game Warden Actions - Questionable or Legal?
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11/20/14 02:15 AM
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Plugs are a silly anyways. Just get several shotguns and line them right next to you. Shoot three shots, pick up the next gun one, shoot three shot, etc. See legally plugged shotguns and unlimited shot capability. As far as I know there is no limit on how many shotgun you can have. And you still have a limit on how many birds you can shoot, regardless how many shots you can fire. It is a speed trap for wardens, kind of like the stupid log for whitetail on the back of your license.
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Re: Game Warden Actions - Questionable or Legal?
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11/21/14 08:55 AM
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I have an EXTRA Long plug in my shotgun. You can't even load 1 round into the tube.
Now the 10 shot mags that are in my back pocket, . . . that is a different story.
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Re: Game Warden Actions - Questionable or Legal?
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11/21/14 08:57 AM
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Plugs are a silly anyways. Just get several shotguns and line them right next to you. Shoot three shots, pick up the next gun, shoot three shots, etc. See, legally plugged shotguns and unlimited shot capability. As far as I know there is no limit on how many shotguns you can have. And you still have a limit on how many birds you can shoot, regardless how many shots you can fire. It is a speed trap for wardens, kind of like the stupid log for whitetail on the back of your license. I once read that Ted Nugent hunts waterfowl that way. ???
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Re: Game Warden Actions - Questionable or Legal?
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11/21/14 05:28 PM
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I have made many plugs for friends hunting with me in the past.. I have since bought a couple plugs and just keep them in my blind bag.. Easier to be safe than sorry..
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Re: Game Warden Actions - Questionable or Legal?
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11/21/14 05:50 PM
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This would play out REAL QUICK in front of the JP:
Buddy: " ... Judge, the GW BROKE my stick plug . . . "
GW: " ...YES Judge, I ' removed without disassembling the gun'.... "
Judge: " ... hmmm, law says nothing 'bout 'breaking sticks' but does say 'that cannot be removed without disassembling the gun'; GW did not 'disassemble gun ', therefore (hammer bang) Guilty as charged! - I find in favor of Prosecution; FINE STANDS - PLUS COURTS COSTS... !!! "
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Re: Game Warden Actions - Questionable or Legal?
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11/21/14 10:46 PM
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I have heard both sides of the story now. I believe the GW did nothing wrong and did not "intentionally" break the guys so called plug.
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Re: Game Warden Actions - Questionable or Legal?
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11/22/14 12:08 AM
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I have heard both sides of the story now. I believe the GW did nothing wrong and did not "intentionally" break the guys so called plug. That's what I was thinking. Sounds like every other story where "The Pigs" give someone a "Bull****" fine, when they didnt even do anything! Only going 15 mph over the speed limit? "Dumb pigs gave me a ticket for no reason!" Nothing irks me more then people who don't respect law enforcement. I believe that is a trait of people who can't accept responsibility for their own actions, a very childish trait
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Re: Game Warden Actions - Questionable or Legal?
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11/22/14 12:13 AM
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Re: Game Warden Actions - Questionable or Legal?
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11/22/14 01:02 AM
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I just turned it on . I was looking bird dogs in the butt this morning.
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Re: Game Warden Actions - Questionable or Legal?
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11/22/14 02:56 AM
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Just like the other threads...crickets
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Re: Game Warden Actions - Questionable or Legal?
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11/22/14 03:12 AM
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How much is a plug, like five bucks?
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Re: Game Warden Actions - Questionable or Legal?
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11/22/14 03:18 AM
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To be fair, Hogman, no one even knows what the GW said. I've never said the GW was wrong; I debated what we knew from the OP. We still don't know anything about the GW's side of the story, only that someone spoke with him and the plug was not intentionally broken, but no details on what that means.
I just turned it on . I was looking bird dogs in the butt this morning.
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Re: Game Warden Actions - Questionable or Legal?
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11/22/14 03:33 AM
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How much is a plug, like five bucks? Yeah but when you are in the field hunting w/o a plug, and GW is comming, kinda hard to buy a plug so you grab a stick to jam in there before GW gets there.
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Re: Game Warden Actions - Questionable or Legal?
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11/22/14 03:40 AM
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How much is a plug, like five bucks? Yeah but when you are in the field hunting w/o a plug, and GW is comming, kinda hard to buy a plug so you grab a stick to jam in there before GW gets there. Haha kinda what I was thinking.
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Re: Game Warden Actions - Questionable or Legal?
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11/22/14 04:28 AM
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I have heard both sides of the story now. I believe the GW did nothing wrong and did not "intentionally" break the guys so called plug. As far as I can interpret, this did not "shed light" for either side...obviously, with the original disclosure you made taken in to consideration, it probably is not advisable for you to share your subsequently acquired knowledge of the situation...but c'mon.
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Re: Game Warden Actions - Questionable or Legal?
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11/22/14 11:57 AM
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The gun was checked once. The so called "plug" was indeed a stick that was so worn down from the elements that it basically was just bark. As far as the other details of this incident I probably should not share. Hope this helps guys. All of the provided information is of course, public knowledge.
Last edited by Deputy T; 11/22/14 12:37 PM.
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