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6.5 Creedmoor is a Beast
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11/15/14 11:22 PM
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Just shot my third animal with my 6.5 Creedmoor that Derrick at Horizon Firearms built me. Axis buck at 265 yards, 129 SST, DRT. He did not move, just like the hog a I shot 2 weeks ago and the Axis buck I shot in July. I am in love with this round. I have always used 308 and 7mm08 for deer and pigs but neither puts animals in the dirt like the 6.5.
Just to make sure that it is done thoroughly, I go both ways.
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor is a Beast
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11/15/14 11:33 PM
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Congrats, what powder you using and speed? Barrel length/twist, grooves?
What shot placement are you using?
Thanks.
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor is a Beast
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11/15/14 11:35 PM
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It is lovely isn't it.
One of the joys in life is bang...flop.
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor is a Beast
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11/15/14 11:36 PM
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I am looking at a Ruger Predator in 6.5 Creedmoor. It looks like a great all around caliber.
Rick
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor is a Beast
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11/15/14 11:53 PM
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Considering the terminal performance of the other two exceed the 6.5, it's not the caliber doing the work
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor is a Beast
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11/16/14 12:33 AM
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Sounds like it's doing the job to me.
Maybe the lighter bullets are getting a bit more velocity and are mushrooming better, creating more shock.
In the end, what works for you engenders confidence. That counts for a lot.
Kind regards, charlesb
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor is a Beast
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11/16/14 01:54 AM
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor is a Beast
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11/16/14 02:26 AM
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Congrats, what powder you using and speed? Barrel length/twist, grooves?
What shot placement are you using?
Thanks. Factory Hornady two SSTs running about 2715fps. 16.25" barrel, 8" twist. Went with the trusty heart/lung on both axis and ear holed the pig.
Just to make sure that it is done thoroughly, I go both ways.
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor is a Beast
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11/16/14 03:02 AM
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Considering the terminal performance of the other two exceed the 6.5, it's not the caliber doing the work True, shoot a couple hundred animals to get any statistical variance, but hey glad you are happy with it!! Ed
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor is a Beast
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That is a bad-looking rig. Congrats on the harvests!
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor is a Beast
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11/16/14 04:50 AM
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Considering the terminal performance of the other two exceed the 6.5, it's not the caliber doing the work Yes, I get amused at posts regarding calibers that are very similar for all practical purposes and one is singled out as a "bang/flopper" over the others. Or anything being called a "bang/flopper" for that matter. "Bang/flops" with any standard medium deer caliber are the result of shot placement, not any certain caliber having magic or juju of being a mysteriously perfect caliber that achieves better results than other similar calibers.
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor is a Beast
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That pointed at me?
I never talked bad about the 308 or 7-08 he has. I still have a 308 barrel, and a complete rifle in 7-08. 6.5 Creed, 7-08, 308 all do the job very well. I didn't want to take away from OP's recent joy of his new chambering.
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor is a Beast
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11/16/14 05:27 AM
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Considering the terminal performance of the other two exceed the 6.5, it's not the caliber doing the work Yes, I get amused at posts regarding calibers that are very similar for all practical purposes and one is singled out as a "bang/flopper" over the others. Or anything being called a "bang/flopper" for that matter. "Bang/flops" with any standard medium deer caliber are the result of shot placement, not any certain caliber having magic or juju of being a mysteriously perfect caliber that achieves better results than other similar calibers. I couldn't agree more. The real questions are what bullet, how fast is it going, and where does it hit?
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor is a Beast
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11/16/14 12:50 PM
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Nope, best short action round there is. Threw my 7mm08s and 308s in the burn pile. I missed a whitetail with it and he died out of respect for the mighty Creedmoor.
Just to make sure that it is done thoroughly, I go both ways.
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor is a Beast
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11/16/14 02:29 PM
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Kinda funny to me; ballistics on my 257 Roberts load are about the same. While I never heard it called a beast my results have been very similar with the deer shot with it.
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor is a Beast
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11/16/14 02:48 PM
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while the creedmoor is good it is no different than the 6.5X47, 6.5X55, 6.5X57 or 260 remington which all shoot the same bullet at basically the same velocity. A little slower than the 6.5-284, 6.5-06, and 6.5 Rem Mag and quite a bit slower than the 264 Win Mag and 26 Nosler. Heck it is faster than the 6.5X54MS that Bell used for elephant.
The 6.5X55 has been getting the job done for over 120 years so those ballistics are nothing new.
Granted confidence in the rifle/cartridge goes a long way for effectiveness to the shooter but there are a bunch of other cartridges that are just as effective.
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor is a Beast
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11/16/14 03:02 PM
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That pointed at me?
I never talked bad about the 308 or 7-08 he has. I still have a 308 barrel, and a complete rifle in 7-08. 6.5 Creed, 7-08, 308 all do the job very well. I didn't want to take away from OP's recent joy of his new chambering. No. Just a general observation that IMO all the "bang/flop" and DRT stuff is unecessary, over-rated, and IMO counterproductive. BFs/DRTs are almost always only achieved only by taking out the central nervous system. That means, head, neck, or spine. That means pinpoint shot placement. That means less margin for error. That means problems for many. There is nothing wrong with a lung/heart shot placed about 1/3 of the way up above the front leg. Gives a bunch of margin for error. Lethal. Yes, deer usually runs a little ways and collapses. But this fact doesn't affect one's manhood. And the 6.5 is a wonderful caliber.
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor is a Beast
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11/16/14 03:13 PM
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That pointed at me?
I never talked bad about the 308 or 7-08 he has. I still have a 308 barrel, and a complete rifle in 7-08. 6.5 Creed, 7-08, 308 all do the job very well. I didn't want to take away from OP's recent joy of his new chambering. No. Just a general observation that IMO all the "bang/flop" and DRT stuff is unecessary, over-rated, and IMO counterproductive. BFs/DRTs are almost always only achieved only by taking out the central nervous system. That means, head, neck, or spine. That means pinpoint shot placement. That means less margin for error. That means problems for many. There is nothing wrong with a lung/heart shot placed about 1/3 of the way up above the front leg. Gives a bunch of margin for error. Lethal. Yes, deer usually runs a little ways and collapses. But this fact doesn't affect one's manhood. And the 6.5 is a wonderful caliber. Though difficult to time the shot NP described for lungs will result in a bang/flop if the critter has just exhaled and the lungs are empty of air.
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor is a Beast
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11/16/14 03:15 PM
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I have video showing why the Creedmoor is special. I sure like mine!
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor is a Beast
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11/16/14 03:27 PM
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I agree NP. But why steal a guy's thunder over a new (to him) cartridge? Awesomeness, DStroud!
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor is a Beast
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Dang Flip, Did not know you were going to bring out so much creedmoor envy! and DStroud I told you not to film in the shop while we were building guns.
On the Derailment to bang flop. He is using a bullet with a decent BC and one that is a little more explosive, transferring more of the energy to the animal vs penetration. I personally like that, and if given the opportunity I go high shoulder shot to get the bang flop. In south Texas I prefer not to track, even 30 yards.
As for the 257 comment, its because the 25 calibers have very low BC options. All things equal a higher BC will penetrate better than a low BC bullet of the same weight, just like it cuts wind.
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor is a Beast
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I have video showing why the Creedmoor is special. I sure like mine! Good one!!! Love my 6.5x55
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor is a Beast
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All things equal a higher BC will penetrate better than a low BC bullet of the same weight, just like it cuts wind. Sure about that? As soon as an expanding bullet begins to open up you can kiss BC goodbye. Perhaps you meant sectional density.
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor is a Beast
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All things equal a higher BC will penetrate better than a low BC bullet of the same weight, just like it cuts wind. Sure about that? As soon as an expanding bullet begins to open up you can kiss BC goodbye. Perhaps you meant sectional density. I think Derrick is referring to the fact that it's maintaining a higher percentage, down range, of the MV.
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor is a Beast
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I have video showing why the Creedmoor is special. I sure like mine!
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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