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#5417226 - 11/12/14 10:43 PM .223 enough?
HCGedge3 Offline
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I'm taking my son to my lease this weekend and we're going to try and get him his first deer. He has a .223 and he shoots it really good (50-70yards). Now I know if he's got a deer in his scope he will start shaking and I'm wondering if he hits the deer any where else but the vitals if this gun will be enough to take the deer down. I dont want him to wound the deer?

I guess what I am asking is has anyone ever harvested a deer with a .223 (69 grain bullet)

Thanks!

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#5417231 - 11/12/14 10:45 PM Re: .223 enough? [Re: HCGedge3]
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I have harvested a deer with 223. Imo, go with more gun if possible. What other options do you have?
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#5417232 - 11/12/14 10:46 PM Re: .223 enough? [Re: HCGedge3]
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Lots of folks have

Good luck this weekend
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#5417243 - 11/12/14 10:54 PM Re: .223 enough? [Re: HCGedge3]
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Yes. My daughter uses my .223 and has killed a deer every year with it. Any gun that doesn't hit in tne boiler room can result in a wounded and lost deer. I don't care how big of caliber it is. The key is for him to shoot within the range he is proficient and to take his time. I'm sure you will coach him through it just fine.

I use a 75 grain Hornady BTHP for deer. It causes lots of havoc. The doe my daughter shot with it last year did a complete somersault and drt. The year before she shot a buck that looked like it spilled a buck of red paint as he ran the last 30 yards of his life. If you can't tell, that bullet has impressed me greatly. Good luck and post some photos next week!


Edited by Big_Ag (11/12/14 10:56 PM)

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#5417351 - 11/13/14 03:11 AM Re: .223 enough? [Re: HCGedge3]
davvy Offline
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Yesish. Imo the223 is a great little cartridge for experienced hunters who are better than average marksman. that being said, if you don't have another option that has low enough recoil for him to keep the same accuracy in the field.... It will do the job just stay away from lower percentage shots.

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#5417368 - 11/13/14 04:35 AM Re: .223 enough? [Re: HCGedge3]
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SHOT PLACEMENT is KEY
Deer have been known to be taken with .22 shorts.

You say you don't want to wound a deer, well I've seen a lot of deer wounded and never found with the .223. In my opinion it's not really a kids gun if the kid hasn't hunted much or at all. It takes a marksman to correctly place the shot.
If the child is big enough go with something bigger like a 30-30 with standard or reduced recoil loads.


Edited by Jimbo (11/13/14 04:42 AM)

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#5417385 - 11/13/14 05:34 AM Re: .223 enough? [Re: HCGedge3]
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Shot placement and the right bullet with it. It will work well. Practice perfect shot placement also.
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#5417449 - 11/13/14 06:46 AM Re: .223 enough? [Re: HCGedge3]
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Loc: Near Lake Somerville TX.
The 223 is a great round, been using 55grn Nosler BT for years here. We hand load all
rounds. Round just below the neck, base of the head. No meat wasted, humane kill.
223 round makes a gud turkey round also!
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#5417455 - 11/13/14 06:49 AM Re: .223 enough? [Re: HCGedge3]
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IMO he will do better with the 223 he is used to than some larger caliber he might be scared of. If a deer is not shot in a good part it really doesn't matter the caliber.
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#5417473 - 11/13/14 07:06 AM Re: .223 enough? [Re: don k]
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Originally Posted By: don k
IMO he will do better with the 223 he is used to than some larger caliber he might be scared of. If a deer is not shot in a good part it really doesn't matter the caliber.


This ^^^. I've killed many deer and big hogs with my .223 Remington 700 ADL. I use Remington power lokt pt. soft pt. in 55 grain. Never had a shadow of a doubt as to its capabilities even out past 100 yards.
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#5417486 - 11/13/14 07:20 AM Re: .223 enough? [Re: HCGedge3]
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Can it kill a deer ? Yes
Does it have the knock down power ?NO
Shoot placement is key but not always going to be the only point to have to worry about.
There has been many many topics on this and it all ways makes the crazies come out lol.
Me personally i would not use one if i had other options .....6.8 or 300 BO 243 maybe with about the same recoil if that is where the concern is .I understand those saying what they have killed and know what the .223 was designed for but wouldn't you rather not have to worry about it as much by using a little bigger caliber.
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#5417556 - 11/13/14 08:06 AM Re: .223 enough? [Re: HCGedge3]
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oh boy, here we go again lol popcorn

but yes for the record, I have dropped a deer dead in their tracks with a 223 and my nephews will be using my AR this year

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#5417586 - 11/13/14 08:23 AM Re: .223 enough? [Re: Kenneth1977]
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Originally Posted By: Kenneth1977
Can it kill a deer ? Yes
Does it have the knock down power ?NO
Shoot placement is key but not always going to be the only point to have to worry about.
There has been many many topics on this and it all ways makes the crazies come out lol.
Me personally i would not use one if i had other options .....6.8 or 300 BO 243 maybe with about the same recoil if that is where the concern is .I understand those saying what they have killed and know what the .223 was designed for but wouldn't you rather not have to worry about it as much by using a little bigger caliber.

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#5417700 - 11/13/14 09:22 AM Re: .223 enough? [Re: HCGedge3]
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You'll be fine, my son's killed a buck and a doe the last 2 years with his .223. The doe dropped immediately, the buck went about 40 yards but it was the bullet we were using then not the caliber. I fully believe that all of the shooting he's done with the .223 is making him a better shot. He took out a coyote at 185 yards with my 7x57 last weekend.

Confience is everything!!! If he's confident with the .223 then the probablity of him making a good shot is better than if he's thinking about the gun instead making the shot.
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#5417720 - 11/13/14 09:29 AM Re: .223 enough? [Re: HCGedge3]
Kenneth1977 Offline
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Start them off on a bigger gun they wont know the difference , first gun i shot was a 12 ga and then a 3006 yes i was young and it kicked the crap out of me but i learned how to shoot them and knew what to expect .
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