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#5411873 - 11/10/14 07:34 PM Maybe a dumb question about building a custom rifle.
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So I've got a savage 111 in .270win I'm contemplating slowly over the next couple years as funds permit build it slowly into a custom rifle. I've heard that the savages are pretty easy to rebarell, but if I wanted to change calibers from .270, what is required? New barrel, new magazine, and what else? No idea what caliber I want to go to, or if I want to switch at all. Just mulling it over right now.
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#5411922 - 11/10/14 07:56 PM Re: Maybe a dumb question about building a custom rifle. [Re: Tff caribou]
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Not a dumb question. It can get confusing. Yes you will need a new barrel if you're going away from the 270.

To keep your action and bolt as-is you have some choices on new cartdges.

6.5mm- 6.5-284

7mm- 280 Remington (what I'd do)

.308- 30-06

Yes there's a long list of other cartridges but those are a few examples. You'll need, at minimum a new barrel to make your rifle into one of those. You could keep everything like it is if you choose to.
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#5411974 - 11/10/14 08:13 PM Re: Maybe a dumb question about building a custom rifle. [Re: Tff caribou]
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Ask Chad what that 270 will actually be able to do for ya now! He's a fan
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#5411996 - 11/10/14 08:23 PM Re: Maybe a dumb question about building a custom rifle. [Re: Tff caribou]
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I learned to shoot long range with a 270, so yes, it will do it. Load up a 135 Sierra match king, or 130, 140, 150 VLD, or a decent hunting bullet, like an SST, and it will work fine. It shoots flatter than a 308 Win, and will buck the wind better. But, a good barrel and some rifle work will be better than the factory rifle.
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#5412033 - 11/10/14 08:33 PM Re: Maybe a dumb question about building a custom rifle. [Re: ChadTRG42]
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Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42
I learned to shoot long range with a 270, so yes, it will do it. Load up a 135 Sierra match king, or 130, 140, 150 VLD, or a decent hunting bullet, like an SST, and it will work fine. It shoots flatter than a 308 Win, and will buck the wind better. But, a good barrel and some rifle work will be better than the factory rifle.


FiremanJG will be on here shortly to debate ya! Lol

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#5412071 - 11/10/14 08:44 PM Re: Maybe a dumb question about building a custom rifle. [Re: Tff caribou]
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do a 280 AI or the 6.5-284
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#5412134 - 11/10/14 08:58 PM Re: Maybe a dumb question about building a custom rifle. [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Not a dumb question. It can get confusing. Yes you will need a new barrel if you're going away from the 270.

To keep your action and bolt as-is you have some choices on new cartdges.

6.5mm- 6.5-284

7mm- 280 Remington (what I'd do)

.308- 30-06

Yes there's a long list of other cartridges but those are a few examples. You'll need, at minimum a new barrel to make your rifle into one of those. You could keep everything like it is if you choose to.


Thank you. That's exactly the kind of info I was looking for. My plan is to make the caliber change the last thing I do. It currently shoots fine. Figured I'd go trigger first, then new optics, then stock, then barrel. By then I'll know for sure If I want to change calibers.
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#5412267 - 11/10/14 09:35 PM Re: Maybe a dumb question about building a custom rifle. [Re: Tff caribou]
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Absolutely the perfect order!

Just make sure the stock you're currently using keeps the barrel free floated no matter what the forearm is rested on.
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#5412282 - 11/10/14 09:39 PM Re: Maybe a dumb question about building a custom rifle. [Re: Deerhunter61]
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Originally Posted By: Deerhunter61
Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42
I learned to shoot long range with a 270, so yes, it will do it. Load up a 135 Sierra match king, or 130, 140, 150 VLD, or a decent hunting bullet, like an SST, and it will work fine. It shoots flatter than a 308 Win, and will buck the wind better. But, a good barrel and some rifle work will be better than the factory rifle.


FiremanJG will be on here shortly to debate ya! Lol


Nah. Chad and I have agreed to disagree on some things. 270, SFP, MOA, I'll let it go with him. But no one else. slinger
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#5412304 - 11/10/14 09:50 PM Re: Maybe a dumb question about building a custom rifle. [Re: Tff caribou]
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Originally Posted By: Tff caribou
So I've got a savage 111 in .270win I'm contemplating slowly over the next couple years as funds permit build it slowly into a custom rifle. I've heard that the savages are pretty easy to rebarell, but if I wanted to change calibers from .270, what is required? New barrel, new magazine, and what else? No idea what caliber I want to go to, or if I want to switch at all. Just mulling it over right now.


Building a semi-custom rig off a Savage action could not be easier. I just put one together, turned a .308 into a 6.5 creedmoor. You can buy a drop in barrel, I bought a Criterion Light Varmint from Jim over at Northland Shooting Supplies. He is a stand up guy and will walk you through the entire process.

I am just waiting on a Manners stock to complete my build. If you need any help give me a shout.


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#5412324 - 11/10/14 09:57 PM Re: Maybe a dumb question about building a custom rifle. [Re: Gone to Texas]
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Originally Posted By: Tff caribou
So I've got a savage 111 in .270win I'm contemplating slowly over the next couple years as funds permit build it slowly into a custom rifle. I've heard that the savages are pretty easy to rebarell, but if I wanted to change calibers from .270, what is required? New barrel, new magazine, and what else? No idea what caliber I want to go to, or if I want to switch at all. Just mulling it over right now.


Building a semi-custom rig off a Savage action could not be easier. I just put one together, turned a .308 into a 6.5 creedmoor. You can buy a drop in barrel, I bought a Criterion Light Varmint from Jim over at Northland Shooting Supplies. He is a stand up guy and will walk you through the entire process.

I am just waiting on a Manners stock to complete my build. If you need any help give me a shout.


Will do. Thanks.
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#5412470 - 11/10/14 11:06 PM Re: Maybe a dumb question about building a custom rifle. [Re: Tff caribou]
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280 AI...great long range round...shoot the 270 awhile...you might find out you like it.

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#5412806 - 11/11/14 08:13 AM Re: Maybe a dumb question about building a custom rifle. [Re: Tff caribou]
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My thoughts is shoot the 270 now since you have it. It will definitely do the trick with good ammo. I can attest to that. You can easily get it under moa, and with good (not great) ballistics. But, if you want to spend the time and money on a new barrel, then the common LR calibers in 6.5mm and 7mm, even .308", will perform better.
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#5412904 - 11/11/14 08:58 AM Re: Maybe a dumb question about building a custom rifle. [Re: Tff caribou]
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For a Savage get a prefit, either McGowen or CBI both make great shooting button barrels.
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#5412955 - 11/11/14 09:13 AM Re: Maybe a dumb question about building a custom rifle. [Re: Judd]
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I don't own a Savage rifle, never owned one in fact, other than an O/U .223/12 ga. But John Barsness recommends that Savage owners who want to upgrade take a look at ER Shaw's offerings for Savage. Shaw has always had a reputation of making very so-so barrels, but according to Barsness, they've re-tooled with modern equipment and are turning out top-flight stuff nowadays. And apparently the price is right.

It might be worth looking at Shaw's website or giving them a call. Again, I have NO personal experience here, but Barsness knows what he talks about and is honest to a fault.
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