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#5410654 - 11/10/14 11:34 AM Confessions of a bone head mistake and a question!
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I built a .308 Remington SPS Tactical, tricked it out, aftermarket this and that.....and its a stone cold shooter, deadly accurate! However, while at the gun range with my BIL, he was shooting his .260, I accidentally grabbed his box of ammo! While inhale several excuses as to why it took my about 6rounds to figure out I was NOT shooting .308 bullets, none are good....so I am expecting to get piled on for the mistake, I'll accept that. Once I finally did realize the mistake, I didn't shoot again, took it to the local gunsmith, he scoped the barrel and said it was destroyed and wanted obviously to rebarrel it. I haven't shot it since and am trying to figure out what to do from here. I am a little skeptical of the report. I could replace with another factory Remington barrel for 240.00 (plus the Remington authorized repair shops labor cost).....I am still so mad at myself for allegedly destroying a perfectly good, and deadly accurate, rifle, the thought of spending any money in it just reminds me of the stupidity that could have been avoided that day! Thoughts?
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#5410669 - 11/10/14 11:38 AM Re: Confessions of a bone head mistake and a question! [Re: Mfloski]
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Does a .264" bullet bounce its way down the barrel of a .308 bore?

Do you trust your smith? If mine told me the barrel was scrap metal I would belive him.
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#5410690 - 11/10/14 11:48 AM Re: Confessions of a bone head mistake and a question! [Re: Mfloski]
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About the only free advice would be to just go shoot it and find out.

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#5410692 - 11/10/14 11:48 AM Re: Confessions of a bone head mistake and a question! [Re: Mfloski]
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I'd clean it REALLY good and shoot it.
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#5410728 - 11/10/14 12:01 PM Re: Confessions of a bone head mistake and a question! [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Does a .264" bullet bounce its way down the barrel of a .308 bore?

Do you trust your smith? If mine told me the barrel was scrap metal I would belive him.


This....
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#5410737 - 11/10/14 12:04 PM Re: Confessions of a bone head mistake and a question! [Re: Mfloski]
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Second opinion perhaps?
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#5410741 - 11/10/14 12:06 PM Re: Confessions of a bone head mistake and a question! [Re: Mfloski]
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That sucks. Glad nothing worse happened.

We have people at the range occasionally shoot 380 in 9, or 9 in 40. Had someone try to shoot 9mm in a 357 mag a month or two ago. Have not seen anyone do the 260 in a 308 yet.

If I chose to pull the trigger without replacing the barrel, I'd be a good bit nervous on the first trigger pull. I'd take my Gunsmith's word for it, but I'm confident in his knowledge. Your smith experience might be different.


Edited by jdk1985 (11/10/14 12:06 PM)

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#5410745 - 11/10/14 12:07 PM Re: Confessions of a bone head mistake and a question! [Re: LandPirate]
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Originally Posted By: LandPirate
Second opinion perhaps?


Cannot hurt!


Edited by jdk1985 (11/10/14 12:07 PM)

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#5410765 - 11/10/14 12:12 PM Re: Confessions of a bone head mistake and a question! [Re: jdk1985]
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Originally Posted By: jdk1985
That sucks. Glad nothing worse happened.

We have people at the range occasionally shoot 380 in 9, or 9 in 40. Had someone try to shoot 9mm in a 357 mag a month or two ago. Have not seen anyone do the 260 in a 308 yet.

If I chose to pull the trigger without replacing the barrel, I'd be a good bit nervous on the first trigger pull. I'd take my Gunsmith's word for it, but I'm confident in his knowledge. Your smith experience might be different.


I've seen folks do this on purpose on youtube videos. Does this ruin the pistol/barrel?

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#5410774 - 11/10/14 12:18 PM Re: Confessions of a bone head mistake and a question! [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Does a .264" bullet bounce its way down the barrel of a .308 bore?

Do you trust your smith? If mine told me the barrel was scrap metal I would belive him.


For sure it does....

But for a couple of reasons, yes, I do have some doubts/concerns about the opinion I got.

To the guy that said he would be nervous to pull the trigger, I am curious what he is suggestion the harm could be...besides loss of accuracy?
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#5410791 - 11/10/14 12:24 PM Re: Confessions of a bone head mistake and a question! [Re: Mfloski]
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Fractures in the steel? Fracture leads to catastrophic failure of the barrel? A round tube is steel is awfully strong and I wouldn't bet much that there could be a failure.

I'm only speculating here.
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#5410800 - 11/10/14 12:30 PM Re: Confessions of a bone head mistake and a question! [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Fractures in the steel? Fracture leads to catastrophic failure of the barrel? A round tube is steel is awfully strong and I wouldn't bet much that there could be a failure.

I'm only speculating here.


That's basically what I was speculating as well. And it was just speculation I admit, but I'd be nervous. I know steel is strong, but heck, who knows, you just bounced 6 bullets off the sides all along the barrel.

I guess the question is, just how much, and what kind of, damage is there? Can you see damage if you look down the bore?

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#5410804 - 11/10/14 12:31 PM Re: Confessions of a bone head mistake and a question! [Re: Colt W. Knight]
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Originally Posted By: Colt W. Knight
Originally Posted By: jdk1985
That sucks. Glad nothing worse happened.

We have people at the range occasionally shoot 380 in 9, or 9 in 40. Had someone try to shoot 9mm in a 357 mag a month or two ago. Have not seen anyone do the 260 in a 308 yet.

If I chose to pull the trigger without replacing the barrel, I'd be a good bit nervous on the first trigger pull. I'd take my Gunsmith's word for it, but I'm confident in his knowledge. Your smith experience might be different.


I've seen folks do this on purpose on youtube videos. Does this ruin the pistol/barrel?


I don't know if it ruins them. None I have seen have developed any bulges or anything like that. But it certainly can't be good for them.

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#5410840 - 11/10/14 12:46 PM Re: Confessions of a bone head mistake and a question! [Re: Mfloski]
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I can't offer anymore than what was said above. I'm definitely with FiremanJG...if my smith said to rebarrel I don't ask questions, I get my checkbook out. A good cut 308 barrel should be easy to find for $350 and a smith should be able to chamber for around that price.

Sorry man, that sux!
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#5410936 - 11/10/14 01:22 PM Re: Confessions of a bone head mistake and a question! [Re: Mfloski]
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Yes, that's a bad mistake to make. Please pay more attention!!!

But, I've had customers do this already. They didn't put 6 rounds down range, but 1 or 2. The 260 is a .264" bullet, so it's .044" smaller than a .308", so it will bounce around in the barrel some. But, most of your powder gases will blow past the bullet reducing the pressures, while pushing the bullet out the barrel. The damage would be from the bullet hitting the rifling, not an over pressure issue.

Like stated, I would clean it heavily with a pointed jag with a cotton patch soaked in your preferred cleaning solution. As you run the tight patch through the barrel, I'd feel for any resistance or bumps in the rifling. I'd still shoot it to see if it shoots still. I'm betting it would be fine.
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