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#5409699 - 11/09/14 10:22 PM Hornady Superformance 130g SST in 270win... Too soft?
BigPig Offline
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Registered: 08/27/09
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Loc: Forney, Tx
This is the new round that I'm using in my 270. I like accuracy and on paper this thing looks great. However, my wife wanted to try out my rifle so she found a coon under the feeder at about 70yds and let it rip. The results were pathetic. We are talking about a 15-20 pound raccoon, not hogzilla. There was NO exit hole, and barely any blood on the ground. She shot it while he was standing up. Is this round too soft ? How and why would there not be an exit on such a small animal? What's it going to do on deer and hogs?
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#5409704 - 11/09/14 10:26 PM Re: Hornady Superformance 130g SST in 270win... Too soft? [Re: BigPig]
ltsheets Offline
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Registered: 11/12/11
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I've killed 2 deer and a coyote with a 130gr SST. The deer went between 30-50 yds and the coyote dropped in its tracks. All were pass throughs. The deer had quarter sized exit wounds.

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#5409851 - 11/10/14 05:15 AM Re: Hornady Superformance 130g SST in 270win... Too soft? [Re: BigPig]
wp75169 Offline
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Registered: 10/11/09
Posts: 3871
Loc: Wills Point
I've killed one doe with 139gr SST. complete pass thru and nice two finger exit. This was with a 7-08. Can't fathom it not passing thru a coin.

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#5410033 - 11/10/14 07:54 AM Re: Hornady Superformance 130g SST in 270win... Too soft? [Re: BigPig]
ChadTRG42 Offline
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Registered: 09/16/09
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Loc: Lewisville, TX
Your results are not typical. I highly recommend the SST bullets for good expansion and deep penetration.
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#5410164 - 11/10/14 08:53 AM Re: Hornady Superformance 130g SST in 270win... Too soft? [Re: ChadTRG42]
rockinrdranch Offline
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SST's work great for me.

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#5410900 - 11/10/14 01:10 PM Re: Hornady Superformance 130g SST in 270win... Too soft? [Re: BigPig]
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I've been shooting the Hornady Superformance 140g SST's in my .270 with a MV of 3090fps. I Like the performance at the range. However, I've been disappointed with their "field" trials. 2 deer, 1 hog and 1 coyote. All died. All had severe internal damage. None had exit wounds. All were shot at 100 yards or less. The 'yote was DRT. The 2 deer and hog ran less than 100 yards. All were shot behind the shoulder, except the 'yote. He was coming straight at me and shot in the head, with the bullet traveling the length of his body.

The deer and hog left very little blood trail. The hog didn't emit any blood until he began coughing it up through his nose and mouth. The deer left small spatters of blood here and there. Very difficult to find.

My theory is that the bullet is traveling too fast under 200 yards and ripping apart upon contact. I suspect a slower muzzle velocity or greater distance, and therefore a slower velocity, might correct the issue. I have not tried this ammo on an animal beyond 200 yards yet. Just haven't had the opportunity.

Prior to this ammo I used the Hornady Light Magnum 140g. BTSP. Those were even faster at 3110 fps. I always got complete pass thru, always had gaping exit wounds with devastating internal damage.

For me, the jury is still out. I'd like to try them at greater distance and see if my theory holds true or not. In the meanwhile, my confidence in this ammo is a bit shaken.
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#5411333 - 11/10/14 04:02 PM Re: Hornady Superformance 130g SST in 270win... Too soft? [Re: BigPig]
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LandPirate- I came to the same conclusion you did. It's excellent on paper, but I think it's moving too fast for 100yds. I had the same problem with Win ballistic tips a few years ago, it was great at 150yds and beyond but anything closer was terrible. My shots right now vary from 70-330 yds.
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Ever spit it out rather than swallow it?

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Enjoy it while you can. One day you might be complaining about NOT getting random pop-ups in the morning. grin

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#5411380 - 11/10/14 04:16 PM Re: Hornady Superformance 130g SST in 270win... Too soft? [Re: BigPig]
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Here is the raccoon. Very little damage considering the speed and round used. The hole was as big as my thumb, but no exit. Very minimal blood on the ground. If he had walked off there would be no tracking by blood.
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Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Ever spit it out rather than swallow it?

Originally Posted By: pegasaurus
Enjoy it while you can. One day you might be complaining about NOT getting random pop-ups in the morning. grin

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#5411433 - 11/10/14 04:32 PM Re: Hornady Superformance 130g SST in 270win... Too soft? [Re: BigPig]
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Id say skin that coon and you might find the thumb size hole is the exit and the entrance is so small and miniscule you overlooked it in all that hair.
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#5411476 - 11/10/14 04:46 PM Re: Hornady Superformance 130g SST in 270win... Too soft? [Re: BigPig]
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Registered: 01/22/09
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I'm just impressed that someone found a gun that would shoot a superformance shell accurately. wink I've tried them in two different guns and both looked closer to a shotgun pattern than a group.

I'm with redchevy on this one...I bet there was one but it didn't expand enough to tear it up enough to make a big hole going out. Also, by the looks of the picture...it looks like it did a fine job wink
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#5412186 - 11/10/14 09:10 PM Re: Hornady Superformance 130g SST in 270win... Too soft? [Re: BigPig]
BigPig Offline
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I didn't skin it but 3 of us spent 10 minutes looking for 2 holes. I don't know, guess we will see what the results are on a deer. The old WIN lead tips maybe put back in use
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Ever spit it out rather than swallow it?

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Enjoy it while you can. One day you might be complaining about NOT getting random pop-ups in the morning. grin

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#5412503 - 11/10/14 11:29 PM Re: Hornady Superformance 130g SST in 270win... Too soft? [Re: BigPig]
505ed Offline
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Registered: 10/15/14
Posts: 354
Loc: Blanco texas
I have had mixed results with hornady bullets. I worked up a load in my 375 ultra for Africa in 2012. I found a 300 grain Hornady DGX shot great out of my ol RUM. Well I damn near lost two animals due to those [censored] bullets. I had one blow up on a waterbuck,and damn near lost a Livingston eland, before I went back to the 4 swift bullets I had in my case...I had some old interlock bullets that the jackets were brittle, but that was years ago...I have seen hornady quality control go down hill in recent times.

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#5416233 - 11/12/14 03:28 PM Re: Hornady Superformance 130g SST in 270win... Too soft? [Re: BigPig]
RickC. Offline
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Registered: 08/26/14
Posts: 24
Loc: Euless, TX
This may be apples and oranges, but I experienced a similar thing with a coyote with the Hornday 165 BTSP Interlock- just cup and core with exposed lead at the tip-- and I only used those because my Weatherby Vanguard chews up the lead tip of my preferred Speer 165 BTSP too much.

I have only killed 4 deer with that bullet, as opposed to the nearly 30 deer with the Speer, but from what I can tell that Hornady is a harder bullet than the Speer. It's always exited, and those deer which have not dropped on the spot were very easy to trail.

Yet-- I shot a 40 lb male coyote at just over 100 yards with a straight-on shot, dead in the middle of the chest-- and the Hornady 165 BTSP did not exit. The one deer I shot with that bullet after that (from the same box and loaded at the same session) performed as it always had. So I don't know what conclusions can be drawn from deer bullet performance on smaller animals.
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#5416277 - 11/12/14 03:48 PM Re: Hornady Superformance 130g SST in 270win... Too soft? [Re: RickC.]
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Originally Posted By: RickC.
This may be apples and oranges, but I experienced a similar thing with a coyote with the Hornday 165 BTSP Interlock- just cup and core with exposed lead at the tip-- and I only used those because my Weatherby Vanguard chews up the lead tip of my preferred Speer 165 BTSP too much.

I have only killed 4 deer with that bullet, as opposed to the nearly 30 deer with the Speer, but from what I can tell that Hornady is a harder bullet than the Speer. It's always exited, and those deer which have not dropped on the spot were very easy to trail.

Yet-- I shot a 40 lb male coyote at just over 100 yards with a straight-on shot, dead in the middle of the chest-- and the Hornady 165 BTSP did not exit. The one deer I shot with that bullet after that (from the same box and loaded at the same session) performed as it always had. So I don't know what conclusions can be drawn from deer bullet performance on smaller animals.


My conclusion is that I have had very sporadic results with Hornady interlock bullets. I loaded 150 grain in 270 and 154 grain in a 280. On both of them sometimes you would have good expansion penetration and a manageable exit. Sometimes you would get an exit you could stick a cantaloupe in and sometimes you wouldn't get an exit. Shot a buck in the neck with no exit(and we are not talking about a 200 lb buck, more lie 110-115 on the hoof) Also shot several deer through the ribs with no exit that went through the deer then hit the off side ribcage and turned toward the guts. I wont shoot them anymore. I have about 40 rounds loaded that I haven't pulled yet.
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#5416330 - 11/12/14 04:05 PM Re: Hornady Superformance 130g SST in 270win... Too soft? [Re: redchevy]
RickC. Offline
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Registered: 08/26/14
Posts: 24
Loc: Euless, TX
Originally Posted By: redchevy

My conclusion is that I have had very sporadic results with Hornady interlock bullets. I loaded 150 grain in 270 and 154 grain in a 280. On both of them sometimes you would have good expansion penetration and a manageable exit. Sometimes you would get an exit you could stick a cantaloupe in and sometimes you wouldn't get an exit. Shot a buck in the neck with no exit(and we are not talking about a 200 lb buck, more lie 110-115 on the hoof) Also shot several deer through the ribs with no exit that went through the deer then hit the off side ribcage and turned toward the guts. I wont shoot them anymore. I have about 40 rounds loaded that I haven't pulled yet.


I don't want to hijack the thread, but that is interesting to note. If the Weatherby were not so rough on 'em I'd use nothing but Speer-- I have a box left, but they are hard to find lately. The Speer 145 spitzer has been excellent in my .280. 4 for 4 with that bullet. It doesn't knock as big of a hole as the 165 .308 but they have all been one shot kills.
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