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Re: Opinions on bullet/cartridge performance. [Re: Duckhawker] #5410535 11/10/14 04:55 PM
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I've shot deer with all of my 300's. I've had a number of them run when shot behind the shoulder and vitals obliterated.

Conversely, I've neck and head shot deer with a .204 Ruger and anchored them in place.

The caliber matters little as long as you hit the vitals. So to that extent, bullet placement is everything.

The OP is getting complete pass-thru's, leaving an excellent wound channel and spilling a good blood trail. That's all one can hope for when shooting behind the shoulder, regardless of caliber used.


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Re: Opinions on bullet/cartridge performance. [Re: ctonsmitty] #5410580 11/10/14 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted By: redchevy
You have a bullet that is expanding creating a larger exit with ample blood trail and people are telling you to switch bullets???

I wouldn't change a thing with the bullets.

Running deer is the nature of the beast when you shoot double lung. If you want them to stay put you need to hit central nervous system or take out the wheels like you did before. Break both front shoulders, shoot hi shoulder and get spine, shoot neck or head. That is about all that will get you a drt kill most of the time. Again your bullets look like they are functioning flawlessly to me I wouldn't change a thing!


Good advice right here. I shot three does opening weekend with a .308 150gr Rem Corelokt. All shots under 100 yards, all in the boiler room. Huge exits, lots of blood, but they ran 30-50 yards.

Originally Posted By: ctonsmitty
you are shooting a 243 and you are killing deer (which is the goal) a 243 is more than likely not going to drop them in their tracks unless you shoot them in the spine, neck, or head. tracking a deer anywhere from 30- 50 yards is about right for a 243. **I shot a doe in the neck and it did not kill her. She ran off and I thought I missed her. We found her laying down about 80 yards away and ended up shooting her again (killing her) as she stumbled off.....never again will I shoot a deer with 243 in the neck
**I have killed about 30 deer with a 243 Winchester 100 grain power point (and have probably lost 6-7 with a 243, which is why my go to is the 270)

Even for a 270, you can expect to track about 30 yards for a heart, lung shot (sometimes they drop, sometimes they run a bit)...just part of it
I have killed about 80-90 with a 270 (and shoot 130 grain soft points)

shot placement is THE MOST IMPORTANT!!
Shot placement definitely is the most important part-if you lost 7/37 deer shot with a 100gr 243, you're not placing them very well. Any neck shot where you miss the spine is going to result in a deer running off regardless of caliber. It wasn't the .243s fault.


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Re: Opinions on bullet/cartridge performance. [Re: Duckhawker] #5410585 11/10/14 05:13 PM
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I would go to a cup and core bullet simply because it is not as frangible and thus gives you a little more margin for error. I believe traditional cup and core bullets strike the perfect balance for medium sized game. Or a Nosler Partition-which is basically a little tougher and better engineered cup and core bullet.

YMMV...


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Re: Opinions on bullet/cartridge performance. [Re: Duckhawker] #5410818 11/10/14 06:36 PM
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It looks to me your bullets are working like they are supposed to. Even though the bullet is a hollow point, it is bonded so it will keep its weight retention. With shots behind the shoulder, deer typically run a short distance and I would not be concerned if your getting the blood trails like you said. I prefer to shoot them where you are to keep meat loss to a minimum as well.

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