Let's hear 2-3 guides you know that wouldn't allow them? I believe you are mostly wrong and you read this some where and just keep passing on internet diarrhea

I have grown to like GOOD muzzle devices and I do try to remember to warn anyone to get ready(protection) when I shoot with folks around which does not happen that often while hunting. I guide(not for a living) and I keep some type of protection handy. I have two pair of Electronic and I wear mostly at night when after predators but when it's Big Game I normally just use foam plugs. BUT I do that break or no break. Breaks aren't any louder than your guy with a 20 inch barrel .243 AI or the .223 with a 16 inch barrel with birdcage.

Of course I am sure if enough guides complain the Government could pass laws against loud muzzle devices... maybe even make us buy mufflers for our rifles..oh wait that would be a Suppressor and we cannot be trusted with those.

Lol

Unreal....

Impressive. I have a break on my 300 ultra mag. Didn't shoot it before, so not sure how big of a difference it makes but doubt that a small 12 year old could handle one without a break. My cousin and sister both shot there first deer with it and no issues. Kicks less than the single shot .243 we have.

I don't know about that one. My 20" AR with a JP comp is terribly louder than a 14" 30-30 Contender, and that was a very loud pistol.

Amazing how many "expert shooters" cannot handle recoil.

Tsk tsk...

I don't think it's a matter of can or cannot handle it. I think it is to make shooting the rifle more enjoyable. It's also a big help in letting a guy spot his own shots, hit or miss.

Nah. Charles is good people. Just a friendly debate is all.

Well now that I think about I have no idea as I would not be around either without hearing protection.

I'm not an expert by any means but I love to shoot and the only way I can is with a muzzle brake. Already had one neck fusion need another so no I can't handle the recoil....and I shouldn't be sensitive about this but I am. I get frustrated when someone uses a gigantic paint brush when they make their comments...

Yup. I have shoulder problems from way back and am looking at muzzle brakes as well. Got to try out a 300 Win. Mag. with a brake that belongs to a friend (Tikka T3 Lite with the factory stock and a very nicely done gunsmith installed brake). That rifle has the perceived recoil of a .243, though it is LOUD. No worries, that's what they make ear protection for.

I run this Fat Bastard on my 300 WM and same brake on my 308 Win. It is VERY effective.

Personally, if I were a guide and had a client with a brake I would make him wear a pink tu-tu throughout the hunt.

I'll give you 50 rounds of 300 Win Mag shooting a 225 BTHP at +2800 fps in my rifle without a brake. After shooting those 50 rounds, tell me how your shoulder feels!! You will want to take two of these, and call me in the morning! I'll shoot it this way but why?

Muzzle brakes do 2 things- reduces recoil, and let's you recover from recoil MUCH quicker than an unbraked rifle to see impacts. I can spot my impacts with a braked rifle. This helps me for follow up shots and/or corrections. When you like to shoot as much as I do, you'd run one also.

I have a couple rifles with breaks. I go to the range first thing on Tuesday morning when there's usually 1 or two others there and I. Set up as far away as I can. When I know I'll be hunting with others I make a point to take it off and resite the rifle with a thread protector in place.

just like you don't hang a stand on the fence line 50 yards from your neighbors house and you go outside instead of smoking in your mommas house. Just cause you enjoy it doesn't mean everyone does so try and use common courtesy and we can all get along...

Jerod's breaks are fantastic......

BTW- it is a "BRAKE" not a break!!

I get using the brake for the range. But in most hunting situations you'll likely not even feel the recoil, even without a brake.

Honestly, I couldn't care less. But I don't see the need for a brake on any of my hunting rifles. Range rifles? That's a different story.

This may be the most sensible post in this entire thread. Both lovers and haters of brakes will all agree that they do help when spending long sessions on the bench or shooting long range. Likewise, we can all agree that they can be a significant annoyance to companions when hunting in the field. More than one outfitter and guide has recommended the practical expedience of simply detaching the brake.

So, just unscrew the brake and leave it at home when heading for the hill. During the excitement of the hunt itself, one will never notice the increased recoil of the 1 or 2 shots you will fire. And unless you're shooting prairie dogs at 400 yards, the change in POI in your load won't make any difference at the ranges you'll be shooting big game.

^^Wise words^^

However I look at a hunting guide as a man providing a service and the hunter is his client. I too provide a service and have clients. My clients still must be able to hear what I am telling them all day long same as a hunting guide. But what seperates the hunting guide from me is that he will have to stand by one maybe two rifle shots for the day. I will have to be next to a man that will shoot 50-100 rounds for the day. I have a steel roof over the platform at the zero line. I insulated this roof simply for muzzle report dampening purposes. Anyone that has shot or been next to a rifle, brake or not, under a steel roof knows it is unpleasant. So I tell the guys coming to the range shoot with a brake, a suppressor or nothing on the muzzle. They're grown men and they can decide for themselves what muzzle device they want to use. I will adapt to accomidate them, not the other way around as is told of some hunting guides. That's providing poor customer service in my opinion.

You know what is annoying.....when I go to the range and shoot suppressed and someone sits next to me without a can. Now I have to wear hearing protection

Most,if not all, of my guns have a brake. I guide hunters as a side job. I would much rather someone have a brake and have good trigger control then someone shooting a magnum rifle and flinch with every trigger pull. I've seen guys miss a target because they are scared of the recoil.

As far as hearing protection, I use electronic ear muffs when I guide. It's MY JOB to protect my ears and not the hunters. If he chooses to shoot brake/ unbraked and not use ear pro, that's their choice.

lmao sorry chad...want to give my muzzle a "break" is all lol