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#5402692 - 11/06/14 10:09 AM Ideas to manage friends/in-laws and bucks?
the rattler Offline


Registered: 01/30/09
Posts: 177
Loc: Dallas, TX
I have a new ranch, not very big 200 acres but good game. I recently put a house on it and now all the inlaws and friends want to come and I feel that I must lay down some guidelines for who shoots bucks. I have 2 teenagers and the bucks are for us. What are some ideas for management? Thanks
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#5402704 - 11/06/14 10:14 AM Re: Ideas to manage friends/in-laws and bucks? [Re: the rattler]
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Registered: 05/26/11
Posts: 666
Loc: San Antonio, TX
Most suggest getting a biologist out there to so a survey. Talk to neighbors see who hunts and what their practices are. You may not change their practices but it may affect how you manage your land. Get some cams and feeders up to see what is passing through. That's what I would do if I was in your shoes, congrats on your purchase, living the dream!
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#5402710 - 11/06/14 10:16 AM Re: Ideas to manage friends/in-laws and bucks? [Re: the rattler]
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Registered: 10/25/04
Posts: 23393
Loc: Texas
We have 320+- acres for my dad brother and I to hunt. We base total harvest off of surveys. We pick the bucks we specifically want for us or one of us and then other people are typically told you can shoot hogs, any predators(coyotes, bobcat, etc.) a doe, or one of the bucks on an approved list with pictures that we will show them.

We don't have a lot of invite hunts but that is how they have been handled in past.
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#5402724 - 11/06/14 10:20 AM Re: Ideas to manage friends/in-laws and bucks? [Re: the rattler]
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Hand them a brochure made for your ranch with prices to hunt. up
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#5402743 - 11/06/14 10:25 AM Re: Ideas to manage friends/in-laws and bucks? [Re: the rattler]
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Registered: 09/22/11
Posts: 25921
Loc: Normangee/Navasota TX
Get some cameras rolling and scout the bucks you have as much as possible.. have the pictures of the bucks that you feel ok for them to take and let that be that... no exceptions. I have a place that's about the same size and we are taking 4yr old+ bucks nothing younger whatsoever. We do have a few 4yr olds that show to have great potential for some big 5yr olds that will get a pass. Easy to cover the bucks really what you need to find out is how many doe you have and an estimate of your ratio... on mine there are more bucks than doe which is very odd for our area but even so we agreed not to take any doe for now and only 4yr old + bucks... so if you have a lot of doe that's a good way to get that side of things taken care of while your boys are hunting bucks. plenty of shooting being done though since we are working the pigs and yotes non stop. On that size property I would try and keep it well fed and as quiet as possible.
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#5402744 - 11/06/14 10:26 AM Re: Ideas to manage friends/in-laws and bucks? [Re: stxranchman]
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Registered: 10/29/14
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Loc: West is the best...
Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Hand them a brochure made for your ranch with prices to hunt. up


So true!
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#5402798 - 11/06/14 10:38 AM Re: Ideas to manage friends/in-laws and bucks? [Re: the rattler]
stxranchman Offline
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Registered: 08/04/10
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Also explain them you have a long term management plan and goal for your land. You will be sticking to it at all times. That plan includes a limited harvest, no exceptions. All hunters will be guided if needed. That makes it easier to keep from shooting a buck. "That buck is still to young" and leave it at that. grin
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#5402841 - 11/06/14 10:51 AM Re: Ideas to manage friends/in-laws and bucks? [Re: the rattler]
cp50948 Offline
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Registered: 10/26/11
Posts: 182
Loc: Erath,Panhandle
I have a similar situation, only I don't own the land. I married into a family with about the same amount of land. They have never really killed any bigger deer. 120's is probably the biggest they've seen. My family has land in Erath county and over the years we've managed to grow some fairly large bucks. My wife's family has as me to help "manage" the herd by telling them which deer should be culled every year. Well after a few years of shooting culls and growing a decent herd. They have gone buck shooting crazy. Last year they killed 3 3.5-4.5 yr 8s and this year they have managed to do the same thing again and it driving me nuts.

Long story short its your land you decide. If they want to shoot a big deer they can chip in on price of land, corn or hunting set ups. Be careful who you let on your land to hunt. It only takes one hunter to mess up what you've been working hard to create.

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#5402871 - 11/06/14 11:04 AM Re: Ideas to manage friends/in-laws and bucks? [Re: the rattler]
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Registered: 12/02/08
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Loc: Wylie TX
On my place there are culls and nothing else. Deer that are legal that have no brow tines, big bodied spikes which I only have 1 that meets this requirement and 2 funky bucks for this year that look like they took a chair to the face. Ive told the few people ive invited this is it your one and only shot. If you take something other than whats in these pics there is no invite to come back. So far in my one week test with one invited hunter...my brother... it has worked grin
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#5402876 - 11/06/14 11:05 AM Re: Ideas to manage friends/in-laws and bucks? [Re: the rattler]
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Registered: 10/13/08
Posts: 1233
Loc: Portland, Texas
Bottom line is you're going to have to be very stingy with your deer harvests. Your guests have to accept the idea that they will most likely just be watching and enjoying their time in the outdoors. Once folks figure out that they will have very limited opportunities to shoot, it won't take long for most of them to lose interest. Long term you can reward the folks that are willing to chip-in on some of the work, follow the rules closely, help scout out deer for you and your kids, etc. by letting them take a deer, maybe even a cull buck somewhere along the way.

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#5402882 - 11/06/14 11:08 AM Re: Ideas to manage friends/in-laws and bucks? [Re: the rattler]
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Registered: 01/19/11
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Loc: Dollas,Taxes Bluff Dale Tx
I would say 1 buck per 100 acres. At least where we are. Unless you have a low fenced neighbor with 12,000 acres beside you. You have to lay down the law early, everyone wants to hunt your place. Hogs and varmints only, after deer season.
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#5402910 - 11/06/14 11:17 AM Re: Ideas to manage friends/in-laws and bucks? [Re: the rattler]
tShawnB Offline
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Registered: 09/19/12
Posts: 969
Loc: Rolling Plains
Don't invite them or let them hunt. Problem solved.
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#5402927 - 11/06/14 11:22 AM Re: Ideas to manage friends/in-laws and bucks? [Re: the rattler]
colt.45 Offline
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Registered: 03/16/12
Posts: 9307
Loc: wondering about the woods
confused2 what is legal amount of deer that can be taken. HF or LF. here it finaly went to 4 deer county, LF & small acre property. been concentrating on hogs here. one sow can have 4-5 at time & just about 3times a year. seen alot of deer on cams this year. fewer & smaller hogs. my 2cents i have cheep posts. best wishes flag
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#5402933 - 11/06/14 11:24 AM Re: Ideas to manage friends/in-laws and bucks? [Re: the rattler]
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Registered: 09/22/11
Posts: 25921
Loc: Normangee/Navasota TX
What county is this in?
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#5402938 - 11/06/14 11:28 AM Re: Ideas to manage friends/in-laws and bucks? [Re: tShawnB]
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Registered: 11/11/11
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Loc: Bellville, Tx
Originally Posted By: tShawnB
Don't invite them or let them hunt. Problem solved.

This ^^^ it sounds harsh, but unless you are going to sit in the blind with them, it's the only way to do it and be assured that your requirements are met. My family will be coming in next month for a weekend, and the only person who I will let hunt is my father. Not that I don't care that my brothers don't have a place to hunt, it's just that they decide to spend their money elsewhere instead of on a lease. My dad on the other hand, has a green light to shoot anything he wants...he's earned that right for putting up with me for almost 40 years grin
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