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What the heck is going on in East Texas?
#5402502
11/06/14 02:58 PM
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Grosvenor
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You piney woods fellers are getting things done early! Dare I say we're seeing the effects of AR's on THF?
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Re: What the heck is going on in East Texas?
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#5402552
11/06/14 03:15 PM
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Jimbo
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Thursday at 12:45 PM #33 Once i learned that i didn't "NEED" to kill something, and that if i did kill something all the fun stopped and work began, i was a much better hunter.
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Re: What the heck is going on in East Texas?
[Re: Grosvenor]
#5402585
11/06/14 03:26 PM
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jshouse
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If I send my neighbors a text and ask them to give me feedback on my lawn and plant rye into a giant dong pattern, I'm probably going to get some less than positive feedback. Same goes here.
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Re: What the heck is going on in East Texas?
[Re: Grosvenor]
#5402608
11/06/14 03:33 PM
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stxranchman
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Are idiots multiplying faster than normal people?
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Re: What the heck is going on in East Texas?
[Re: Grosvenor]
#5402613
11/06/14 03:35 PM
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Navasot
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Re: What the heck is going on in East Texas?
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#5402614
11/06/14 03:35 PM
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bdotson
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I think the ar have had a positive effect on deer where I hunt. I have always supported the ar. I know they are not perfect but I support them.
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Re: What the heck is going on in East Texas?
[Re: bdotson]
#5402633
11/06/14 03:42 PM
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Western
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I think the ar have had a positive effect on deer where I hunt. I have always supported the ar. I know they are not perfect but I support them. I feel the same way, at least in areas I have hunted that get hammered traditionally.
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Re: What the heck is going on in East Texas?
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#5402642
11/06/14 03:46 PM
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wp75169
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I think the ar have had a positive effect on deer where I hunt. I have always supported the ar. I know they are not perfect but I support them. I feel the same way, at least in areas I have hunted that get hammered traditionally. X3 except half the locals disregard it anyway.
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Re: What the heck is going on in East Texas?
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#5402643
11/06/14 03:46 PM
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RDNCK
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Re: What the heck is going on in East Texas?
[Re: Grosvenor]
#5402702
11/06/14 04:12 PM
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rifleman
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Umm...mutations from generations of inbreeding. They've been there all along.
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Re: What the heck is going on in East Texas?
[Re: Grosvenor]
#5402745
11/06/14 04:26 PM
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whitewing maniac
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We had one legal buck taken off lease on Monday, all the rest that were seen over weekend were narrow. Cant say im jumping for joy yet, 4th year of AR's in county I hunt in and one legal buck taken so far. Yea, we are just blastin the crap out of em
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Re: What the heck is going on in East Texas?
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#5402755
11/06/14 04:29 PM
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MoBettaHuntR
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Umm...mutations from generations of inbreeding. They've been there all along. ] Are you talking about locals? or Deer?
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Re: What the heck is going on in East Texas?
[Re: Grosvenor]
#5402763
11/06/14 04:31 PM
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rifleman
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Deer and certain communities of locals.
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Re: What the heck is going on in East Texas?
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#5402819
11/06/14 04:44 PM
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Grosvenor
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Re: What the heck is going on in East Texas?
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11/06/14 04:50 PM
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Navasot
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Yeah its cuz of the big bad locals that your not seeing any deer...
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Re: What the heck is going on in East Texas?
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#5402869
11/06/14 05:03 PM
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txwingnut
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The AR isnt our big problem, in fact several of us land owners are talking about having a self imposed ban on our properties of bucks for a year or 2. Our problem is by our counts and estimates we are at about 1 buck per 20 does if not 1:30. We really need more than 4 day thanksgiving weekend for doe season!!!
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Re: What the heck is going on in East Texas?
[Re: Grosvenor]
#5402890
11/06/14 05:12 PM
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Seadog
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I still disagree with AR's!!! They do nothing for the genetics of bucks but they will protect younger bucks!!! Those of you that are saying that you are seeing better bucks are probably in an area where the genetics is there for wider racks that is why I think that AR's should not be used as a "blanket" rule!!! I hunted a lease in Tyler County for 5/6yrs and all I saw were narrow racked bucks, (even mature ones), and think that in some cases just reducing the bag limit to 1 buck/1 doe would have accomplished the same thing in saving younger bucks!!! Tyler County was a 2 buck/2 doe County prior to AR's!!! Here is some examples from Tyler: Papa son: another that will probably never be shot" I changed lease to Hardin County about 60mi as the crow flies from the other lease and the genetics are for wider bucks!!! so go figure!!! I don't think AR's are necessary when you can accomplish the same thing with bag limits!!! Unfortunately my lookout is legal:
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I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the Government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them. - Thomas Jefferson
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Re: What the heck is going on in East Texas?
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#5402891
11/06/14 05:12 PM
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Lord of furry creatures
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Absolutly nothing over here. That is what. I feel like me today:) (stupid) what is an AR?
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Re: What the heck is going on in East Texas?
[Re: Grosvenor]
#5402926
11/06/14 05:22 PM
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Seadog
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AR's are antler restrictions where the inside spread needs to be outside the ears of an alert buck (13 in)and the other buck has to have one unbranched antler!!! Please read Outdoor Guide!!! These are legal: Outside spread greater than 13in At least one unbranched antler These are not legal: Inside spread less than 13in
Last edited by Seadog; 11/06/14 05:28 PM.
I support Cap and Trade - Cap our spending and Trade Obama
I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the Government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them. - Thomas Jefferson
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Re: What the heck is going on in East Texas?
[Re: Grosvenor]
#5402955
11/06/14 05:34 PM
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rifleman
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Or inside the ears of a mature buck or well outside the ears of a yearling or a yearling spike. ARs are so awesome I could've filled every deer tag I was allowed for the county opening morning, yet didn't pull the trigger the first time. Thanks ARs without you I'd be tagless.
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Re: What the heck is going on in East Texas?
[Re: Grosvenor]
#5402961
11/06/14 05:37 PM
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Seadog
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I support Cap and Trade - Cap our spending and Trade Obama
I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the Government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them. - Thomas Jefferson
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Re: What the heck is going on in East Texas?
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#5402964
11/06/14 05:38 PM
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Lord of furry creatures
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Oh ok. I know the antler restrictions, (not that stupid) just didn't get the abbriviation.
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Re: What the heck is going on in East Texas?
[Re: txwingnut]
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11/06/14 05:40 PM
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Navasot
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The AR isnt our big problem, in fact several of us land owners are talking about having a self imposed ban on our properties of bucks for a year or 2. Our problem is by our counts and estimates we are at about 1 buck per 20 does if not 1:30. We really need more than 4 day thanksgiving weekend for doe season!!! How much property are you hunting?
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Re: What the heck is going on in East Texas?
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#5403003
11/06/14 05:53 PM
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EastTexasHag
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Don't have an AR. I have a Mathews Z-7. Got an East Texas 10.
It's the time spent in God's creation with family and friends making memories that counts.
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Re: What the heck is going on in East Texas?
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#5403277
11/06/14 07:50 PM
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Seadog
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Oh ok. I know the antler restrictions, (not that stupid) just didn't get the abbriviation. I know!!! I was just trying to make a point of why I dislike AR's!!! They say they want to save young bucks and then they say the 2nd buck has to be a spike, (hence my young "lookout")!!!
I support Cap and Trade - Cap our spending and Trade Obama
I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the Government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them. - Thomas Jefferson
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