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#5394965 - 11/02/14 10:22 PM Opinions on vortex hs 4-16x44 vplex
bigdave39355 Offline
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Cabelas has them on sale for $309.

Who runs one and how you like it?

Last few scopes I've bought have been conquests and meopros. How does it compare to them?

Also, will go on a 7mm-08

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#5397251 - 11/03/14 07:23 PM Re: Opinions on vortex hs 4-16x44 vplex [Re: bigdave39355]
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Had the exact scope on my tikka 7-08. Well built, held zero, was bulkier and heavier than I desired, and I was not thrilled with clarity especially in terms of low light performance. I sold it and replaced it with a trijicon. Previously had a Zeiss conquest 3-9 mounted on this rifle, and was more pleased with the Zeiss than vortex granted there was a difference in magnification ranges.

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#5397418 - 11/03/14 08:15 PM Re: Opinions on vortex hs 4-16x44 vplex [Re: bigdave39355]
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I bought a viper after reading rave reviews and promptly sold it because of the clarity. IMO if you have been running zeiss glass you will be disappointed.
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#5397480 - 11/03/14 08:38 PM Re: Opinions on vortex hs 4-16x44 vplex [Re: bigdave39355]
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Yep, to me the clarity is somewhat like some older leupold
Vari-x III's I have used/owned. Not even close to Zeiss, I would place high end Nikon and Burris over Vortex for brightness and clarity.

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#5397602 - 11/03/14 09:14 PM Re: Opinions on vortex hs 4-16x44 vplex [Re: bigdave39355]
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I bought a Viper 6.5-20 x 44 last year and have been very disappointed with it. The glass itself is fine, but the V-Plex wide cross-hairs are so thin, they are next to impossible to see on a dark background or in low light. I have another Vortex Crossfire that has the thicker v-plex cross-hairs and I like it much better.
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#5398688 - 11/04/14 11:18 AM Re: Opinions on vortex hs 4-16x44 vplex [Re: P & Y]
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Registered: 11/23/10
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So in your opinion are the older leupolds worse. I own several old ones and they don't seem to be as clear as the new ones..will leupolds replace them?

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#5398878 - 11/04/14 07:14 PM Re: Opinions on vortex hs 4-16x44 vplex [Re: bigdave39355]
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I have old Leupolds, new ones, Burris, and a new Vortex Viper, and I honestly can't say which is best/brightest. I will say that I was very pleasantly surprised with how bright the Burris was. The new Leupold might be a touch brighter than the older model. That's a maybe. The vortex Viper is awfully nice and bright and I have no complaints at all except that the lowest level of illumination might still be a little too bright, but that's no deal killer.

I hunted all one season with the Burris FFII 4.5-14 and it was great.

But...if you are a turret cranker, the above info is of little value to you.

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#5399593 - 11/05/14 12:32 AM Re: Opinions on vortex hs 4-16x44 vplex [Re: bigdave39355]
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I own one with the BDC reticle. 309 is a great deal, I would absolutely buy it, I have mine mounted on some DNZ mounts and love the set up. Very clear and with the warranty you can't beat it IMO.

My brother is a Leupold man, but every time he shoots one of my Vortex scopes he says he might need to get one. I own the Viper HS, Viper PST FFP, a Diamond back on a .22, and a set of Diamondback binocs. I guess you could say I'm a fan!
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#5411905 - 11/10/14 07:46 PM Re: Opinions on vortex hs 4-16x44 vplex [Re: Gone to Texas]
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I've got mostly Vortex Diamondbacks...great scopes...just ordered a new Vortex 4-16x42mm Diamondback HP Waterproof Scope....


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#5414712 - 11/11/14 09:57 PM Re: Opinions on vortex hs 4-16x44 vplex [Re: bigdave39355]
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I've got the Viper 4-16x44 HS LR and love it. I don't have any complaints on clarity, but to be fair, I haven't used it in low light so I can't give feedback on that.
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#5415878 - 11/12/14 12:38 PM Re: Opinions on vortex hs 4-16x44 vplex [Re: bigdave39355]
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I was checking out the POI on several rifles this morning. Scopes involved were Leupold VX3 and VariX III, Burris FFII, and the new Viper PST 4-16 x50 FFP. To my eyes, the least sharp scope was the Vortex Viper. I played with the focus and the side parallax, but it just isn't as sharp. It was the inexpensive Burris that impressed me the most.

This wasn't low light testing, but was just shooting at 100 yards in morning sun, with the sun at my back. The Vortex was on 16 power, the Leupold and Burris were at 14 power. The VariX III is a 30 mm tube 6.5-20x50.

I'm going to leave the Vortex on my 260 for now, but may sell it after hunting season and get something else. It isn't bad but it isn't as good as I had expected.

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#5415915 - 11/12/14 12:59 PM Re: Opinions on vortex hs 4-16x44 vplex [Re: bigdave39355]
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You should have compared on similar powers, the higher magnification the worse performance in low light.

I had my viper HS LR 4-16 hunting low light the first time last weekend. Sitting in a tripod watching a really nice young 8pt I could have shot him for what I would think is well after legal shooting light. At 6;25pm I could have still easily placed a shot at about 90 yards (on 8x... not 16)
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#5416275 - 11/12/14 03:46 PM Re: Opinions on vortex hs 4-16x44 vplex [Re: bigdave39355]
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Note that it was not in low light. It was bright morning light. The Vortex just didn't seem as sharp. I may be wrong, and the purpose of the shooting wasn't to compare the optics. Both Leupolds (old and new) were sharp at max power, as was the Burris. The last rifle I shot had the Vortex, and I noticed right off that it wasn't as sharp. I fiddled with parallax and the focus, and it just never did get as good as the others. I spent hefty money on that scope, so I am a bit disappointed. I'll do more shooting and comparisons to see if there really is a difference.

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#5416304 - 11/12/14 03:57 PM Re: Opinions on vortex hs 4-16x44 vplex [Re: bigdave39355]
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I see. Sitting one of our other stands I scoped some deer looking due east into the rising sun. I also had issues with the lighting. Not sure if it was the scope or what, but I couldn't even get a site picture with the sun glaring in like that. Guess ill see what the old Leupold does if I break it out later this year.
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#5419440 - 11/13/14 09:34 PM Re: Opinions on vortex hs 4-16x44 vplex [Re: bigdave39355]
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I have found that similarly priced optics are generally the same class and there is a lot of personal preference and application in choosing. therefore to say why one is better than the other is it better for you? - that being said vortex offers a lot of options with scopes Turrets Reticle Parallax Magnification for less cost than say Leupold add at least a hundred for a each option Reticle Turrets AO

Shown below is a new setup in 223 wsssm winchester70 with a viper HS 4-16 x 44.


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