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DL to purchase ammo! #5389189 10/30/14 06:45 PM
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I just nought 4 boxes of ammo for my 6.5 AR and they required my Drivers License...not just looking at it to confirm I am who I am but took down my DL number!

I'm mad and just can't take it anymore! This is ridicules!

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Re: DL to purchase ammo! [Re: Deerhunter61] #5389350 10/30/14 08:06 PM
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Cabelas in Allen...if this is just a Cabelas thing, they said its just been implemented, and not a government thing they definitely will lose my business! If it's a government thing then I want to find out how this was implemented because I've never heard of it before...

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Was it 6.5 Grendel ammo? If so, it must be a Cabela's thing.


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Re: DL to purchase ammo! [Re: Deerhunter61] #5389531 10/30/14 09:37 PM
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No, Creedmoor...

Re: DL to purchase ammo! [Re: Deerhunter61] #5389579 10/30/14 10:03 PM
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Hmm.

That's not good.


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Re: DL to purchase ammo! [Re: Deerhunter61] #5389699 10/30/14 11:18 PM
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Re: DL to purchase ammo! [Re: J.G.] #5389756 10/31/14 12:06 AM
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Re: DL to purchase ammo! [Re: Deerhunter61] #5389760 10/31/14 12:07 AM
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I have to show my ID to buy spray-paint and beer, to vote and to get on a plane. I never understood the push-back on showing it for ammo and frankly I think you should need to show your ID to buy ammo..... There is no big bad government movement to create a database of all the ammo you buy so don't tinfoil hat me either.


let the hate begin....

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Re: DL to purchase ammo! [Re: Deerhunter61] #5389764 10/31/14 12:11 AM
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to add to this - it's nothing more than being about liability.... no different than any of you wanting to see my CHL or DL if you sell me a gun.

Cabelas, or whoever, is smart to do this in the unfortunate event someone buys a case of ammo and shoots up the local mall, school, etc. Somewhere a lawyer said "you know what, we better make sure we are not selling this to a 13 year old kid and we follow all the laws because in Texas "for rifle or shotgun ammo you only have to be 18 but in order to buy handgun ammo you have to be 21......"

it's all about CYA and nothing more.

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Showing is one...recording Dl is another.

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Originally Posted By: Dave3575
There is no big bad government movement to create a database of all the ammo you buy so don't tinfoil hat me either.



You know this to be factual because of...what?? I'd argue that there are plenty of statists in the federal government who would LOVE to do this. How many anti-gun moves have we seen out of the current administration in the past six years? And how can we be so sure we know about everything?

Tinfoil hat yourself.


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Re: DL to purchase ammo! [Re: Dave3575] #5389788 10/31/14 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted By: Dave3575
I have to show my ID to buy spray-paint and beer, to vote and to get on a plane. I never understood the push-back on showing it for ammo and frankly I think you should need to show your ID to buy ammo..... There is no big bad government movement to create a database of all the ammo you buy so don't tinfoil hat me either.


let the hate begin....


The problem is not in showing the DL, I've got no problem with that, the problem is the government documenting the purchase!

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the government isn't documenting it, cabelas is.... this is not a national practice, just one store (and maybe chain, we have no idea).

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There is no big bad government movement to create a database of all the ammo you buy so don't tinfoil hat me either.



You know this to be factual because of...what?? I'd argue that there are plenty of statists in the federal government who would LOVE to do this. How many anti-gun moves have we seen out of the current administration in the past six years? And how can we be so sure we know about everything?

Tinfoil hat yourself.


what is more plausable - a store protecting themselves from liability or a ammo registry?

Chad, for example, is under no law, mandate or regulatory requirement to record and submit his sales on an individual basis, neither is any big box store.

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Originally Posted By: Cleric
Showing is one...recording Dl is another.


most stores now "swipe" the card to verify age, it's all in the spirit of automation.... it is then logged. Would you refuse that bottle of delicious scotch if the liquor store swiped vs. visually verified? Most POS (point of sale) machines are going towards swipe based age verification

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[quote=Dave3575

what is more plausable - a store protecting themselves from liability or a ammo registry?
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That's not my point.

You said "There is no big bad government movement to create a database of all the ammo you buy so don't tinfoil hat me either."

My point is you don't know. If you want to pass out tin-foil hats, you wear one first.


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Birth date yes. DL number NO. The only information entered into the cash register is the birth date not the drivers license number, Month, date, year only MM/DD/YYYY

The system at Cabela's now requires the Birthdate and only of under 21 does it prompt the cashier to ask for long gun or handgun for the ammunition. No drivers license number required.

Not much different than before where the cashier might ask you for ID if you do not look well over the age to buy ammo.


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lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true
Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Originally Posted By: Dave3575
the government isn't documenting it, cabelas is.... this is not a national practice, just one store (and maybe chain, we have no idea).



Cabela's is not documenting DL numbers, just verifying DOB and entering that into the system. If you are 21 or over they did not ask if the ammo is for a handgun or rifle did they, why because from the birth date the system knows if you are old enough to buy handgun ammo.


lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true
Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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the government isn't documenting it, cabelas is.... this is not a national practice, just one store (and maybe chain, we have no idea).



Cabela's is not documenting DL numbers, just verifying DOB and entering that into the system. If you are 21 or over they did not ask if the ammo is for a handgun or rifle did they, why because from the birth date the system knows if you are old enough to buy handgun ammo.



Originally Posted By: Deerhunter61
I just nought 4 boxes of ammo for my 6.5 AR and they required my Drivers License...not just looking at it to confirm I am who I am but took down my DL number!

I'm mad and just can't take it anymore! This is ridicules!

Just going by the OP which said they took his DL#

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Originally Posted By: Deerhunter61
I just nought 4 boxes of ammo for my 6.5 AR and they required my Drivers License...not just looking at it to confirm I am who I am but took down my DL number!

I'm mad and just can't take it anymore! This is ridicules!


Took down your date of birth, could care less about your DL. They enter the DOB and nothing else from it.


lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true
Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Originally Posted By: Dave3575
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Showing is one...recording Dl is another.


most stores now "swipe" the card to verify age, it's all in the spirit of automation.... it is then logged. Would you refuse that bottle of delicious scotch if the liquor store swiped vs. visually verified? Most POS (point of sale) machines are going towards swipe based age verification


Yes I would! Principle always comes first! Actually I don't drink so bad example...lol

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Originally Posted By: Deerhunter61
I just nought 4 boxes of ammo for my 6.5 AR and they required my Drivers License...not just looking at it to confirm I am who I am but took down my DL number!

I'm mad and just can't take it anymore! This is ridicules!


Took down your date of birth, could care less about your DL. They enter the DOB and nothing else from it.


Nope...she took down my DL#...

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Originally Posted By: kmon1
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the government isn't documenting it, cabelas is.... this is not a national practice, just one store (and maybe chain, we have no idea).



Cabela's is not documenting DL numbers, just verifying DOB and entering that into the system. If you are 21 or over they did not ask if the ammo is for a handgun or rifle did they, why because from the birth date the system knows if you are old enough to buy handgun ammo.



Again...she typed in my DL#...I confirmed it with her....

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She told me this was just required over the last week or so...

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