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#5389275 - 10/30/14 02:27 PM World Murder Statistics
redfred Offline


Registered: 04/18/09
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Please go all the way down the list for the "bottom line". . .

This is FASCINATING !!
WORLD MURDER STATISTICS

From the World Health Organization
The latest Murder Statistics for the world:

Murders per 100,000 citizens per year.

Honduras 91.6 (WOW!!)
El Salvador 69.2
Cote d'lvoire 56.9
Jamaica 52.2
Venezuela 45.1
Belize 41.4
US Virgin Islands 39.2
Guatemala 38.5
Saint Kitts and Nevis 38.2
Zambia 38.0
Uganda 36.3
Malawi 36.0
Lesotho 35.2
Trinidad and Tobago 35.2
Colombia 33.4
South Africa 31.8
Congo 30.8
Central African Republic 29.3
Bahamas 27.4
Puerto Rico 26.2
Saint Lucia 25.2
Dominican Republic 25.0
Tanzania 24.5
Sudan 24.2
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 22.9
Ethiopia 22.5
Guinea 22.5
Dominica 22.1
Burundi 21.7
Democratic Republic of the Congo 21.7
Panama 21.6
Brazil 21.0
Equatorial Guinea 20.7
Guinea-Bissau 20.2
Kenya 20.1
Kyrgyzstan 20.1
Cameroon 19.7
Montserrat 19.7
Greenland 19.2
Angola 19.0
Guyana 18.6
Burkina Faso 18.0
Eritrea 17.8
Namibia 17.2
Rwanda 17.1
Mexico 16.9
Chad 15.8
Ghana 15.7
Ecuador 15.2
North Korea 15.2
Benin 15.1
Sierra Leone 14.9
Mauritania 14.7
Botswana 14.5
Zimbabwe 14.3
Gabon 13.8
Nicaragua 13.6
French Guiana 13.3
Papua New Guinea 13.0
Swaziland 12.9
Bermuda 12.3
Comoros 12.2
Nigeria 12.2
Cape Verde 11.6
Grenada 11.5
Paraguay 11.5
Barbados 11.3
Togo 10.9
Gambia 10.8
Peru 10.8
Myanmar 10.2
Russia 10.2
Liberia 10.1
Costa Rica 10.0
Nauru 9.8
Bolivia 8.9
Mozambique 8.8
Kazakhstan 8.8
Senegal 8.7
Turks and Caicos Islands 8.7
Mongolia 8.7
British Virgin Islands 8.6
Cayman Islands 8.4
Seychelles 8.3
Madagascar 8.1
Indonesia 8.1
Mali 8.0
Pakistan 7.8
Moldova 7.5
Kiribati 7.3
Guadeloupe 7.0
Haiti 6.9
Timor-Leste 6.9
Anguilla 6.8
Antigua and Barbuda 6.8
Lithuania 6.6
Uruguay 5.9
Philippines 5.4
Ukraine 5.2
Estonia 5.2
Cuba 5.0
Belarus 4.9
Thailand 4.8
Suriname 4.6
Laos 4.6
Georgia 4.3
Martinique 4.2
And .............................................
The United States 4.2 !!!!!!!!!!!!
ALL (109) of the countries above America have 100% gun bans.
It might be of interest to note that SWITZERLAND is not shown on this list because it has
NO MURDER OCCURRENCE!
However, SWITZERLAND'S law requires that EVERYONE:
1. Own a gun.
2. Maintain Marksman qualifications .... regularly.
Didja learn anything from this??
I think the message is - loud and clear - that gun bans and restrictions
DO NOT work!
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#5389661 - 10/30/14 05:52 PM Re: World Murder Statistics [Re: redfred]
coolie Offline
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Registered: 12/19/06
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UNODC murder rates most recent year (full table here [9]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
Country Rate Count Region Subregion Year listed Notes

Burundi 8.0 790 Africa Eastern Africa 2012
Comoros 10.0 72 Africa Eastern Africa 2012
Djibouti 10.1 87 Africa Eastern Africa 2012
Eritrea 7.1 437 Africa Eastern Africa 2012
Ethiopia 12.0 11,048 Africa Eastern Africa 2012
Kenya 6.4 2,761 Africa Eastern Africa 2012
Madagascar 11.1 2,465 Africa Eastern Africa 2012
Malawi 1.8 279 Africa Eastern Africa 2012
Mauritius 2.8 34 Africa Eastern Africa 2011
Mayotte (France) 6.0 12 Africa Eastern Africa 2009
Mozambique 12.4 3,133 Africa Eastern Africa 2012
Réunion (France) 1.8 15 Africa Eastern Africa 2009
Rwanda 23.1 2,648 Africa Eastern Africa 2012
Seychelles 9.5 9 Africa Eastern Africa 2012
Somalia 8.0 819++ Africa Eastern Africa 2012
South Sudan 13.9 1,504 Africa Eastern Africa 2012 See notes below.
Uganda 10.7 3,753 Africa Eastern Africa 2011
Tanzania 12.7 6,071 Africa Eastern Africa 2012
Zambia 10.7 1,501 Africa Eastern Africa 2012
Zimbabwe 10.6 1,450 Africa Eastern Africa 2012
Angola 10.0 2,079 Africa Middle Africa 2012
Cameroon 7.6 1,654 Africa Middle Africa 2012
Central African Republic 11.8 532 Africa Middle Africa 2012 See notes below.
Chad 7.3 907 Africa Middle Africa 2012
Congo 12.5 541 Africa Middle Africa 2012
Democratic Republic of the Congo 28.3 18,586 Africa Middle Africa 2012
Equatorial Guinea 19.3 142 Africa Middle Africa 2012
Gabon 9.1 148 Africa Middle Africa 2012
Sao Tome and Principe 3.3 6 Africa Middle Africa 2011
Algeria 0.7 280 Africa Northern Africa 2011
Egypt 3.4 2,703 Africa Northern Africa 2011
Libya 1.7 103++ Africa Northern Africa 2012
Morocco 2.2 704 Africa Northern Africa 2012
Sudan 11.2 4,159 Africa Northern Africa 2012 See notes below.
Tunisia 2.2 235 Africa Northern Africa 2012
Botswana 18.4 368 Africa Southern Africa 2012
Lesotho 38.0 764 Africa Southern Africa 2010
Namibia 17.2 388 Africa Southern Africa 2012
South Africa 31.0 16,259 Africa Southern Africa 2012
Swaziland 33.8 416 Africa Southern Africa 2012
Benin 8.4 848 Africa Western Africa 2012
Burkina Faso 8.0 1,311 Africa Western Africa 2012
Cape Verde 10.3 51 Africa Western Africa 2012
Ivory Coast 13.6 2,691 Africa Western Africa 2012
Gambia 10.2 182 Africa Western Africa 2012
Ghana 6.1 1,537 Africa Western Africa 2012
Guinea 8.9 1,018 Africa Western Africa 2012
Guinea-Bissau 8.4 140 Africa Western Africa 2012
Liberia 3.2 135 Africa Western Africa 2012
Mali 7.5 1,119 Africa Western Africa 2012
Mauritania 5.0 191 Africa Western Africa 2012
Niger 4.7 803 Africa Western Africa 2012
Nigeria 20.0 33,817 Africa Western Africa 2012
Senegal 2.8 379 Africa Western Africa 2012
Sierra Leone 1.9 113 Africa Western Africa 2012
Togo 10.3 684 Africa Western Africa 2012
Anguilla (UK) 7.5 1 Americas Caribbean 2012
Antigua and Barbuda 11.2 10 Americas Caribbean 2012
Aruba (Netherlands) 3.9 4 Americas Caribbean 2010
Bahamas 29.8 111 Americas Caribbean 2012
Barbados 7.4 21 Americas Caribbean 2012
British Virgin Islands (UK) 8.4 2 Americas Caribbean 2006
Cayman Islands (UK) 14.7 8 Americas Caribbean 2009
Cuba 4.2 477 Americas Caribbean 2012
Dominica 21.1 15 Americas Caribbean 2010
Dominican Republic 22.1 2,268 Americas Caribbean 2012
Grenada 13.3 14 Americas Caribbean 2012
Guadeloupe (France) 7.9 36 Americas Caribbean 2009
Haiti 10.2 1,033 Americas Caribbean 2012
Jamaica 39.3 1,087 Americas Caribbean 2012
Martinique (France) 2.7 11 Americas Caribbean 2009
Montserrat (UK) 20.4 1 Americas Caribbean 2008
Puerto Rico (USA) 26.5 978 Americas Caribbean 2012
Saint Kitts and Nevis 33.6 18 Americas Caribbean 2012
Saint Lucia 21.6 39 Americas Caribbean 2012
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 25.6 28 Americas Caribbean 2012
Trinidad and Tobago 28.3 379 Americas Caribbean 2012
Turks and Caicos Islands (UK) 6.6 2 Americas Caribbean 2009
United States Virgin Islands (USA) 52.6 56 Americas Caribbean 2013
Belize 44.7 145 Americas Central America 2012
Costa Rica 8.5 407 Americas Central America 2012
El Salvador 41.2 2,594 Americas Central America 2012
Guatemala 39.9 6,025 Americas Central America 2012
Honduras 90.4 7,172 Americas Central America 2012
Mexico 21.5 26,037++ Americas Central America 2012
Nicaragua 11.3 675 Americas Central America 2012
Panama 17.2 654 Americas Central America 2012
Bermuda (UK) 7.7 5 Americas Northern America 2012
Canada 1.6 543 Americas Northern America 2012
Saint Pierre and Miquelon (France) 16.5 1 Americas Northern America 2009
United States 4.7 14,827 Americas Northern America 2012
Argentina 5.5 2,237 Americas South America 2010
Bolivia 12.1 1,270 Americas South America 2012
Brazil 25.2 50,108 Americas South America 2012
Chile 3.1 550 Americas South America 2012
Colombia 30.8 14,670 Americas South America 2012 See notes below.
Ecuador 12.4 1,924 Americas South America 2012
French Guiana (France) 13.3 30 Americas South America 2009
Guyana 17.0 135 Americas South America 2012
Paraguay 9.7 649 Americas South America 2012
Peru 9.6 2,865 Americas South America 2012
Suriname 6.1 33 Americas South America 2012
Uruguay 7.9 267 Americas South America 2012
Venezuela 53.7 16,072 Americas South America 2012
Kazakhstan 7.8 1,263 Asia Central Asia 2012
Kyrgyzstan 9.1 494 Asia Central Asia 2011
Tajikistan 1.6 126 Asia Central Asia 2011
Turkmenistan 12.8 660 Asia Central Asia 2012
Uzbekistan 3.7 1,060 Asia Central Asia 2012
China 1.0 13,410 Asia Eastern Asia 2010
Hong Kong 0.4 27 Asia Eastern Asia 2012
Macao 0.7 4 Asia Eastern Asia 2010
North Korea 5.2 1,293 Asia Eastern Asia 2012
Japan 0.3 442 Asia Eastern Asia 2011
Mongolia 9.7 266 Asia Eastern Asia 2011
South Korea 0.9 427 Asia Eastern Asia 2011 See notes below.
Taiwan 3.0 686 Asia Eastern Asia 2011
Brunei 2.0 8 Asia South-Eastern Asia 2012
Cambodia 6.5 964 Asia South-Eastern Asia 2012
Indonesia 0.6 1,456 Asia South-Eastern Asia 2012
Laos 5.9 392 Asia South-Eastern Asia 2012
Malaysia 2.3 652 Asia South-Eastern Asia 2012
Myanmar 15.2 8,044 Asia South-Eastern Asia 2012
Philippines 8.8 8,484 Asia South-Eastern Asia 2012
Singapore 0.2 11 Asia South-Eastern Asia 2012
Thailand 5.0 3,307 Asia South-Eastern Asia 2011
Timor-Leste 3.6 39 Asia South-Eastern Asia 2010
Vietnam 3.3 3,037 Asia South-Eastern Asia 2012
Afghanistan 6.5 1,948 Asia Southern Asia 2012 See notes below.
Bangladesh 2.7 4,169 Asia Southern Asia 2012
Bhutan 1.7 12 Asia Southern Asia 2012
India 3.5 43,355 Asia Southern Asia 2012
Iran 3.9 3,126 Asia Southern Asia 2012
Maldives 3.9 13 Asia Southern Asia 2012
Nepal 2.9 786 Asia Southern Asia 2011
Pakistan 7.7 13,846 Asia Southern Asia 2012 See notes below.
Sri Lanka 3.4 707 Asia Southern Asia 2011
Armenia 1.8 54 Asia Western Asia 2012
Azerbaijan 2.1 194 Asia Western Asia 2010
Bahrain 0.5 7 Asia Western Asia 2011
Cyprus 2.0 23 Asia Western Asia 2012
Georgia 4.3 187 Asia Western Asia 2010
Iraq 8.0 2,628 Asia Western Asia 2012 See notes below.
Israel 1.8 134 Asia Western Asia 2012 See notes below.
Jordan 2.0 133 Asia Western Asia 2011
Kuwait 0.4 12 Asia Western Asia 2012
Lebanon 2.2 95 Asia Western Asia 2010
Palestine 7.4 312 Asia Western Asia 2012 See notes below.
Oman 1.1 34 Asia Western Asia 2011
Qatar 1.1 23 Asia Western Asia 2012
Saudi Arabia 0.8 234 Asia Western Asia 2012
Syria 2.2 463 Asia Western Asia 2010 See notes below.
Turkey 2.6 1,866 Asia Western Asia 2011
United Arab Emirates 2.6 235 Asia Western Asia 2012
Yemen 4.8 1,099 Asia Western Asia 2010
Belarus 5.1 486 Europe Eastern Europe 2010
Bulgaria 1.9 141 Europe Eastern Europe 2012
Czech Republic 1.0 105 Europe Eastern Europe 2012
Hungary 1.3 132 Europe Eastern Europe 2012
Poland 1.2 449 Europe Eastern Europe 2011
Moldova 6.5 229 Europe Eastern Europe 2012
Romania 1.7 378 Europe Eastern Europe 2012
Russia 9.2 13,120 Europe Eastern Europe 2012
Slovakia 1.4 75 Europe Eastern Europe 2012
Ukraine 4.3 1,988 Europe Eastern Europe 2010
Denmark 0.8 47 Europe Northern Europe 2012
Estonia 5.0 65 Europe Northern Europe 2011
Finland 1.6 89 Europe Northern Europe 2012
Greenland (Denmark) 19.4 11 Europe Northern Europe 2009
Iceland 0.3 1 Europe Northern Europe 2012
Ireland 1.2 54 Europe Northern Europe 2012
Latvia 4.7 97 Europe Northern Europe 2012
Lithuania 6.7 202 Europe Northern Europe 2012
Norway 2.2 111 Europe Northern Europe 2011 See notes below.
Sweden 0.7 68 Europe Northern Europe 2012
United Kingdom 1.0 653 Europe Northern Europe 2011
Albania 5.0 157 Europe Southern Europe 2012
Andorra 1.3 1 Europe Southern Europe 2010
Bosnia and Herzegovina 1.3 51 Europe Southern Europe 2011
Croatia 1.2 51 Europe Southern Europe 2012
Greece 1.7 184 Europe Southern Europe 2011
Italy 0.9 530 Europe Southern Europe 2012
Kosovo 3.6 64 Europe Southern Europe 2010
Malta 2.8 12 Europe Southern Europe 2012
Montenegro 2.7 17 Europe Southern Europe 2012
Portugal 1.2 122 Europe Southern Europe 2012
San Marino 0.7 x Europe Southern Europe 2012
Serbia 1.2 111 Europe Southern Europe 2012
Slovenia 0.7 14 Europe Southern Europe 2012
Spain 0.8 364 Europe Southern Europe 2012
Macedonia 1.4 30 Europe Southern Europe 2011
Austria 0.9 77 Europe Western Europe 2012
Belgium 1.6 182 Europe Western Europe 2012
France 1.0 665 Europe Western Europe 2012
Germany 0.8 662 Europe Western Europe 2011
Liechtenstein 0.0 0 Europe Western Europe 2012
Luxembourg 0.8 4 Europe Western Europe 2011
Monaco 0.0 0 Europe Western Europe 2008
Netherlands 0.9 145 Europe Western Europe 2012
Switzerland 0.6 46 Europe Western Europe 2011
Australia 1.1 254 Oceania Australasia 2012
New Zealand 0.9 41 Oceania Australasia 2012
Fiji 4.0 35 Oceania Melanesia 2012
New Caledonia (France) 3.3 8 Oceania Melanesia 2009
Papua New Guinea 10.4 713 Oceania Melanesia 2010
Solomon Islands 4.3 24 Oceania Melanesia 2012
Vanuatu 2.9 7 Oceania Melanesia 2012
Guam (USA) 2.5 4 Oceania Micronesia 2011
Kiribati 8.2 8 Oceania Micronesia 2011
Micronesia 4.6 5 Oceania Micronesia 2012
Nauru 1.3 x Oceania Micronesia 2012
Palau 3.1 x Oceania Micronesia 2012
Cook Islands 3.1 x Oceania Polynesia 2012
French Polynesia (France) 0.4 1 Oceania Polynesia 2009
Niue 3.6 x Oceania Polynesia 2012
Samoa 3.6 7 Oceania Polynesia 2012
Tonga 1.0 1 Oceania Polynesia 2012
Tuvalu 4.2 x Oceania Polynesia 2012
I'm a staunch supporter of gun rights and self defense, but that doesn't change the fact that there is a TON of data cherry-picking, misinformation, and deception in this post.

1. The data (http://www.unodc.org/documents/data-and-analysis/statistics/...) has a lot of missing years for various countries. The figures listed in the blog simply uses the most recent year's rate for each country. Not only is this not an apples to apples comparison because the figures are different years for different countries, but only using one sample really distorts countries that have a highly fluctuating rate.

2. There are LOTS of countries that have a lower murder rate than the USA too, but those have been omitted from the presented figures. From my count, 109 countries have higher murder rates and 99 countries have lower murder rates, putting the USA square in the middle of the pack. And many countries don't just have lower murder rates, but MUCH lower murder rates...just to name a few: Denmark - 0.9; Norway - 0.6; Italy - 0.7; Spain - 0.8; Austria - 0.6; Germany - 0.8; Micronesia - 0.9; Palau - 0.0; French Polynesia - 0.4; Monaco - 0.0; United Arab Emirates - 0.8; Qatar - 0.9; Oman - 0.7; Japan - 0.4; China - 1.0; Hong Kong - 0.2; Egypt 1.2. Why has all of the data not been given? I'll tell you why: because it would soften the claimed relationship between gun control and murder. This is the definition of data cherry picking.

3. (quote): "SWITZERLAND (not shown on this list) has NO MURDER OCCURRENCE!". That is 100% pure [censored]. Since, that claim wasn't made in the original blog post, I have to ask: From where did you pull that claim, emalvini? According to the data, Switzerland's most recent year (2010) had 52 murders for a rate of 0.7 per 100,000. The average of 1995-2010, Switzerland had 72 murders per year for an average annual rate of 0.96.
3. (quote): "SWITZERLAND (not shown on this list) has NO MURDER OCCURRENCE!". That is 100% pure [censored]. Since, that claim wasn't made in the original blog post, I have to ask: From where did you pull that claim, emalvini? According to the data, Switzerland's most recent year (2010) had 52 murders for a rate of 0.7 per 100,000. The average of 1995-2010, Switzerland had 72 murders per year for an average annual rate of 0.96.

4. The blog from where this post originates says the countries above the USA have "nearly 100% gun bans". What happened to the word "nearly" when it was reposted here at the DP, emalvini? As mentioned by many of you below, many countries on this list do not have a 100% gun ban.

5. What does the original claim of "nearly 100% gun ban" even mean? No definition of that is given here or in the blog.

6. Murder is complicated. Crime is complicated. There are lots of factors. I'm sorry if that pops the perfect little bubbles that many of you have created for yourselves in which there is this perfect and repeatable causality relationship between gun control and crime. Economic stability, demographics, culture, law enforcement, corruption, education levels, etc. etc. etc. ALL impact crime rates. I'm sure gun control is also a factor, but it is far from the only factor and probably not even a particularly strong factor, given that the data is basically all over the map, no pun intended.

Lastly, I just want to say that this type of deception and data manipulation and cherry-picking have no place here at the DP. I, personally, am interested in the truth. I think that applies to most of us here. That's why we come here: to have honest discussions and debates in an effort to uncover the truth. This type of deception is exactly what I'd expect from DailyKos.com or RedState.com. Let's please hold ourselves to a higher standard and reject misinformation and deception, even when (especially when?) you agree with the point being made.

After all, truth requires no deception.

http://www.dailypaul.com/293499/world-mu...ve-100-gun-bans

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#5396409 - 11/03/14 01:28 PM Re: World Murder Statistics [Re: redfred]
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There was no deception intended. I was sent this from a friend that I have every reason to trust. I forgot to follow the directions of Ronald Reagan, "Trust but verify". Thanks.
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#5397626 - 11/03/14 09:20 PM Re: World Murder Statistics [Re: redfred]
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Thanks coolie. You said what I should have.
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#5451668 - 12/01/14 01:12 PM Re: World Murder Statistics [Re: redfred]
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#5451723 - 12/01/14 01:29 PM Re: World Murder Statistics [Re: redfred]
Kenneth1977 Offline
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Murders per 100,000 citizens per year ? Is that with cities with only 100 k people in them because i know that the us has a lot more than 4 .What are they calling murder ? with only guns or what .My wife was in chicago a few months ago and she was watching the news one morning and they had over ten shooting deaths in one night across the city.
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#5452063 - 12/01/14 03:38 PM Re: World Murder Statistics [Re: redfred]
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Oh gosh, omit Chicago and Detroit and the narrative would get thrown off.

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#5452590 - 12/01/14 07:10 PM Re: World Murder Statistics [Re: redfred]
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In DC alone the rate is almost 25 deaths per 100k..
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#5515312 - 01/02/15 11:47 AM Re: World Murder Statistics [Re: Gravytrain]
BOONER Offline
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Originally Posted By: Gravytrain
Oh gosh, omit Chicago and Detroit and the narrative would get thrown off.


Dont forget DC and New Orleans!!!

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#5516276 - 01/02/15 08:12 PM Re: World Murder Statistics [Re: redfred]
cazador1022 Offline
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virgin islands and Puerto Rico are US property yet the 2 amend does not apply there. Draconian gun law worst that Kalifornia yet the HIGEST crime rate in the nation

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