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#5388330 - 10/30/14 07:24 AM Just got screwed ...
davvy Offline
Woodsman

Registered: 10/30/14
Posts: 102
Loc: Ft Worth
This past February I met a farmer from Johnson county, about 15mi south of me.
after talking to him a few times the subject of hunting came up and after some discussion he offered to let me hunt his land in exchange for labor. 1.3mi of new fencing, castrated and tagged steers, mowed fields and finally patterning three different mature bucks and building four custom blinds so that we would both have great opportunities to take good deer this year.
then yesterday I get a call saying that he leased the property to some hunters from Dallas and that I'm not allowed on the property anymore.
being a purely verbal agreement I don't see anything I can do about it but would appreciate any advice you could give...

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#5388337 - 10/30/14 07:29 AM Re: Just got screwed ... [Re: davvy]
jshouse Online   content
THF Trophy Hunter

Registered: 01/24/10
Posts: 6238
Loc: Rockwall
you must really like to hunt.
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#5388345 - 10/30/14 07:37 AM Re: Just got screwed ... [Re: davvy]
TxYoteHunter Offline


Registered: 01/20/09
Posts: 1781
Loc: Dallas, Tx.
Yep, you're right. Title says it all very accurately. trout

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#5388353 - 10/30/14 07:43 AM Re: Just got screwed ... [Re: davvy]
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Registered: 01/20/12
Posts: 3929
At least you didn't spend 5 years building a herd, feeding protien, fixing fences, improving pasture, clearing fencelines, and running water lines on your own dime. I feel for you davvy.
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#5388354 - 10/30/14 07:43 AM Re: Just got screwed ... [Re: davvy]
Kevin_M Online   content
Tracker

Registered: 01/05/13
Posts: 523
Loc: Buda, Tx
WOW! The best advise anyone can give you is, no matter how honest people may appear, always get it in writing. It sucks that's how it is these days but as we all know, it is.

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#5388359 - 10/30/14 07:45 AM Re: Just got screwed ... [Re: davvy]
Seadog Offline
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Registered: 09/26/07
Posts: 13451
Loc: East Texas
There's nothing you can do, unfortunately!!!
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#5388362 - 10/30/14 07:52 AM Re: Just got screwed ... [Re: davvy]
cameron00 Online   content
THF Trophy Hunter

Registered: 01/08/09
Posts: 8199
Loc: Texas
Alway, always, always got get it in writing if you're "paying" up front.

Verbal agreements aren't binding when it comes to real estate transactions in Texas and I don't know where a hunting lease falls, but it strikes me as use of real estate.

Really a crappy thing to do, but unfortunately it's not uncommon. When I bought my current place, it was under lawsuit because a guy did work for like 20 years for a local rancher on the place under the promise he'd be left the property in the will. Guy dies, guess who didn't get left the property? Guy lost his suit in summary judgement, as you obviously can't just claim you were supposed to receive part of an estate without any documentation, but still, it's a terrible thing to do to somebody.

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#5388364 - 10/30/14 07:53 AM Re: Just got screwed ... [Re: davvy]
tmaggie50 Offline
Light Foot

Registered: 05/20/14
Posts: 11
I would certainly let it be known all around town that he's a POS.

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#5388368 - 10/30/14 07:54 AM Re: Just got screwed ... [Re: davvy]
txshntr Online   content
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Registered: 09/24/10
Posts: 33684
Loc: Mansfield, Texas
Send him an invoice for the work performed and file for a theft of services. The value would be based on the going rate for the work performed or the amount that he leased the property for. Doubt you get much out of it, but you can push the issue if you want to receive monetary compensation for the work performed. Verbal agreements are considered binding in Texas, but dang hard to prove. Good luck!

As a side note welcome
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#5388373 - 10/30/14 07:57 AM Re: Just got screwed ... [Re: davvy]
Jkd106 Online   content
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Registered: 08/20/13
Posts: 954
Loc: Fannin and Hall
Not so sure, did you ever take any money for labor? Did you get to do any hunting? Or have any form of payment? A contractor I work with, did some work for a guy, no written agreement, guy refused to pay him. He went to the DA, he was told as long as he never accepted a dime, he could file on him. I do not know if this applies to hunting, or if it's worth even pursuing.
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#5388374 - 10/30/14 08:00 AM Re: Just got screwed ... [Re: davvy]
cameron00 Online   content
THF Trophy Hunter

Registered: 01/08/09
Posts: 8199
Loc: Texas
The whole "verbal agreement" stuff is tough.

The farmer is going to claim that the work done wasn't as significant as is being claimed and that it was a trespass fee where you got to spend time on his land during the summer, etc. He's also likely to just say, "I did the majority of all that stuff he's claiming. He helped a bit, but did a poor job, so I had to clean up his mess."

Gonna be your word versus his and unless he just comes forward and admits he screwed you (unlikely), you're going to need witnesses/documentation or it's not even worth your time.

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#5388375 - 10/30/14 08:01 AM Re: Just got screwed ... [Re: davvy]
cameron00 Online   content
THF Trophy Hunter

Registered: 01/08/09
Posts: 8199
Loc: Texas
If he's an older fellow and you can demonstrate that he's not capable of doing the work, it would help your cause.

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#5388398 - 10/30/14 08:17 AM Re: Just got screwed ... [Re: davvy]
davvy Offline
Woodsman

Registered: 10/30/14
Posts: 102
Loc: Ft Worth
He is an older guy who's not getting around to well so I went above and beyond the agreement to help him out. As far as a lawsuit goes its doubtful that I can win and I would rather just get a deer seeing as I have only been able to hunt one year since I moved to Texas 7 years ago.
in a couple hours I'm headed out to the area to knock on doors and pray one of his neighbors that's seen me putting in the work will take pity on me, however remote that chance may be.

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#5388406 - 10/30/14 08:19 AM Re: Just got screwed ... [Re: davvy]
Seadog Offline
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Registered: 09/26/07
Posts: 13451
Loc: East Texas
Good luck to you davvy and welcome to the forum !!! welcome Good things happen to good people eventually!!!
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#5388424 - 10/30/14 08:27 AM Re: Just got screwed ... [Re: davvy]
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Registered: 07/22/07
Posts: 1477
Loc: Sanger, Texas
I'm growing to dislike people more and more every day. Used to be able to look a man in the eyes and shake his hand and his word was his band. Nowadays not so much. Get it in writing from now on.
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