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#5387738 - 10/29/14 07:58 PM High fence elk escaped not tagged ?
Cattleman Online   content
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Registered: 02/09/13
Posts: 800
Loc: Palo Pinto county
Is it legal to shoot an elk that has escaped from a high fence that has no ID marks? I know it may not be ethical if you know where it came from however is it legal? I ask because one escaped from an area ranch and came on us and the question about legality came up . The elk has since been captured and returned home . Who knows the correct answer. I haven't had a chance to ask a GW yet.


Edited by Cattleman (10/29/14 07:58 PM)

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#5387753 - 10/29/14 08:03 PM Re: High fence elk escaped not tagged ? [Re: Cattleman]
cameron00 Offline
THF Trophy Hunter

Registered: 01/08/09
Posts: 8706
Loc: Texas
Somebody may correct me, but if there's no tag, it's absolutely legal. How are you supposed to know if it's feral or a recent escapee?

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#5387756 - 10/29/14 08:04 PM Re: High fence elk escaped not tagged ? [Re: Cattleman]
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decoy

Registered: 04/19/07
Posts: 42700
Loc: Metroplex
Shooting your good(assuming property owner permission were your hunting)

Possession is another issue. If rightful owner can prove its his/her you will loose meat and head. But no other recourse other than that

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#5387769 - 10/29/14 08:08 PM Re: High fence elk escaped not tagged ? [Re: Cattleman]
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Registered: 10/10/10
Posts: 718
how did they catch it where they all over your place raising cane this close to opening day?

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#5387782 - 10/29/14 08:15 PM Re: High fence elk escaped not tagged ? [Re: Cattleman]
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Registered: 02/09/13
Posts: 800
Loc: Palo Pinto county
Well they started out with horses and that didn't work so the owner got in his helicopter and darted it . Yes it was an all day event. It's not my lease it's the ranch I manage and that pasture is leased for hunting so yes they upset our hunters. I hunt another pasture on the other side of the ranch so my deer weren't bothered it may have drove some my way. The high fence owner is typical rich arrogant so and so.

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#5387788 - 10/29/14 08:18 PM Re: High fence elk escaped not tagged ? [Re: Cattleman]
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Registered: 07/13/09
Posts: 1985
Loc: Franklin, Tx Hunt in Panola ...
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Shoot
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#5387792 - 10/29/14 08:20 PM Re: High fence elk escaped not tagged ? [Re: Cattleman]
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Obie Juan Kenobi

Registered: 08/04/10
Posts: 52092
Originally Posted By: Cattleman
Well they started out with horses and that didn't work so the owner got in his helicopter and darted it . Yes it was an all day event. It's not my lease it's the ranch I manage and that pasture is leased for hunting so yes they upset our hunters. I hunt another pasture on the other side of the ranch so my deer weren't bothered it may have drove some my way. The high fence owner is typical rich arrogant so and so.

Did they have an agreement to fly and capture on the ranch you manage?
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#5387796 - 10/29/14 08:22 PM Re: High fence elk escaped not tagged ? [Re: BOBO the Clown]
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Registered: 09/24/10
Posts: 34806
Loc: Mansfield, Texas
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Shooting your good(assuming property owner permission were your hunting)

Possession is another issue. If rightful owner can prove its his/her you will loose meat and head. But no other recourse other than that



We have killed 3 on our place. No other place they could have come from but a HF
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#5387806 - 10/29/14 08:25 PM Re: High fence elk escaped not tagged ? [Re: txshntr]
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decoy

Registered: 04/19/07
Posts: 42700
Loc: Metroplex
Originally Posted By: txshntr
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Shooting your good(assuming property owner permission were your hunting)

Possession is another issue. If rightful owner can prove its his/her you will loose meat and head. But no other recourse other than that



We have killed 3 on our place. No other place they could have come from but a HF


Most owners don't care nor probably have the documentation to show they own it, nor the time to check taxi's and forums. Plus recatching probably cost more then replacing

But if they do you will loose procession of it...

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#5387810 - 10/29/14 08:26 PM Re: High fence elk escaped not tagged ? [Re: Cattleman]
Cattleman Online   content
Tracker

Registered: 02/09/13
Posts: 800
Loc: Palo Pinto county
Yes they had permission they knew I would shoot it if they didn't get it.

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#5387814 - 10/29/14 08:27 PM Re: High fence elk escaped not tagged ? [Re: Cattleman]
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decoy

Registered: 04/19/07
Posts: 42700
Loc: Metroplex
Originally Posted By: Cattleman
Yes they had permission they knew I would shoot it if they didn't get it.


Don't blame you. Hell on feeders

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#5387817 - 10/29/14 08:29 PM Re: High fence elk escaped not tagged ? [Re: Cattleman]
deadlast2004 Offline
Woodsman

Registered: 12/14/10
Posts: 220
Loc: ft worth, texas
We had a Red Stag bust thru a fence on a lease and he was quite tasty! Get the idea?

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#5387820 - 10/29/14 08:32 PM Re: High fence elk escaped not tagged ? [Re: Cattleman]
trjscout Offline
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Registered: 10/10/10
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yep shoot them all not my place to find the owner then what's to say it would still be there when they come for it, It is low fence after all! plus we have them all around our area who knows where to start?

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#5387968 - 10/29/14 09:39 PM Re: High fence elk escaped not tagged ? [Re: BOBO the Clown]
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T-Rex Arms

Registered: 09/24/10
Posts: 34806
Loc: Mansfield, Texas
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted By: txshntr
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Shooting your good(assuming property owner permission were your hunting)

Possession is another issue. If rightful owner can prove its his/her you will loose meat and head. But no other recourse other than that



We have killed 3 on our place. No other place they could have come from but a HF


Most owners don't care nor probably have the documentation to show they own it, nor the time to check taxi's and forums. Plus recatching probably cost more then replacing

But if they do you will loose procession of it...


They could have back what was left... flush
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#5387976 - 10/29/14 09:41 PM Re: High fence elk escaped not tagged ? [Re: trjscout]
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Registered: 07/09/13
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I believe that estray laws only apply to animals classified as domestic livestock. Elk are not defined that way.

I believe you could have killed it even with a tag and kept it. I could be wrong, it's been sooo long tho.

No way would I have allowed a chopper over my place if I'm not in it. All kinds of bad things can happen.
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