Urea turned out to be the better way to go no doubt. All my customers tried to avoid it like the plague because they had got used to the DPF systems. The theory on why Ford had to go to Urea is my own but I also think they really did their homework and learned a lot from their relationship/partnership with Navistar. I knew the Urea made the most sense compared to the other options. Just look at Hino/Toyota their diesels from what I understand have been running Urea longer than anyone over seas so they had an advantage. The Hino 258 is the best truck in its class but now with everyone on the Urea train I am seeing a lot less shop time. Navistar just likes to be innovators and stick their head out there and get it cut off. Everyone learns from their mistakes and runs with it. When Navistar was running out of carbon credits and being forced to come up with a new system to meet the emission requirements the best one was basically an easy bake oven with a brick that heated up and the gasses would way down exhaust particles/soot.

But my market segment is small in the wrecker industry. However I sold 1 Ford to every 10 dodges from 2010 to 2013 until the 6.7 in the fords got some good press and Ford flipped the script at least in the wrecker industry. The DPF was the main reason and the 6.0/6.4 issues was the other so they did not want to be the guinea pigs with the 6.7. 2013 was also the first year we stocked F450 & F550's since 2006. We would only order Ford's in those models per customer order. Now F650's with Cummins/Allison combo has been my number one seller in the under 26k GVW class for years but I think that will take a hit since the severed that relationship and 2015 they will only offer the V10 gas and their 6.7 diesel with their transmission. I think it will be a good spec but in medium duty/heavy duty diesel the inline 6 has always in my opinion been the proven performer.

I have over 80k on mine and love it. Had it deleted a few months ago had around 55k miles at the time and I don't regret it one bit. Gets much better milage and the straight pipe sounds excellent.

Cibolo, I would hope everyone on this forum knows not to put urea in the fuel tank. Anyway, I just deleted the EGR system on my truck, now I'm seeing noticeable fuel mileage increase and the temps run cooler. I would recommend deleting the EGR over DPF delete although I have both deleted the change occurred when the EGR came off.

My 2011 now has 86k on it. I am chomping at the bit to go see Mad Matt and delete EGR/DPF. I ran it to Houston and back this past weekend, and some more power to get through that traffic will be nice. Does the delete remove the 100mph cap on the truck?

Yes

I had a brand new 6.0 Motor in my Ford 250 and the only thing that fixed that crap motor was when I bought a 5.9 Dodge. Will never own a POS Ford again.

150K and running strong........

125k on the 08 F250 I got a while before I see a 6.7.. especially if I find a 7.3 in a few years

HLF, how fast do you need to drive?

If it does you might wanna upgrade brakes. <grin>

Just turned 190k on my 04 6.0 excursion...replaced one injector at 110k...radiator at 120k...Im bad about changing my oil so mine is more like every 10k miles....Maybe that is the key!!! LOL

It's Cast, not HLF. I wanna have all my power and speed that truck can deliver. I paid for it, I want it. Cruising 85 - 90 in a pack of cars and a hole opens up. I wanna get in and out of that hole right now and leave that pack of stuck together idiots in my rear view mirror. I would probably let off at about 110, or when I see them in my rear view...

It's the acceleration I want, not really the speed.

One thing you can depend on in my/any SuperDuty is dang good brakes.

Get in matts truck...lol 125mph is with his boat behind it going up ranger hill...lol

Sure dang good brakes but I still would not trust them when driving the vehicle at very, very excessive speeds. They are powerful street vehicles, they are powerful off-road vehicles, they can start and stop with heavy loads but none of that makes it safe to drive them 100+ nor 100+ on roads where the max speed limit is 75 and most people are driving around that speed. You wanna drive it like it's a sports car - then get a sports car where the vehicle is better designed for that kind of driving. But keep in mind that doesn't make you a better driver nor does it account for the actions of other drivers.

That's just me though.

Is the road work done yet?

Get behind the wheel of one, then restate your opinion. That thing is a beast, and stuck to the road at 100mph.

Just for grins, throw one into a slide on a wet road and see what happens.

Cast, I have one. It's a big dumb truck, not a sports car or even a sporty car. My "Silver Surfer"...

Well, I could be a bit aggressive when around folks driving in a pack and blocking the road for through traffic I guess.

It will never be done most likely lol

Same here and cheers to that. I just try to be reasonable about it. Do unto others... I don't want somebody to be an [censored] to me so I try to keep it cool.

I called mine "outdoor grill"

Bobo, WTF happened?!

No idea..just gotten guesses from insurance fire inspector.

They think battery cables rubbed raw on the frame. It was off and parked when it caught. I wasn't there but got there in a hurry when I got the call. Hunting elk and mulies in CO.

I'll tell you this much. We were extremely lucky to get it out. I found out quickly there is a lot of magnesium in that engine compartment.

I don't agree with insurance findings other then electrical. Fire started by passenger headlight.

DANG Bobo! That really sucks man!

It happens I guess. Just work through it. It could of always been worse.