Main Menu
Advertisement
Affiliates
Advertisement
Newest Members
Farron, Pete737, ramm, Thekitch, TeamC
62669 Registered Users
Top Posters
dogcatcher 83268
stxranchman 52093
RWH24 44568
rifleman 44268
BOBO the Clown 42730
bill oxner 41068
BMD 40619
Big Orn 37484
txshntr 34827
sig226fan (Rguns.com) 31414
facebook
Forum Stats
62669 Members
46 Forums
438372 Topics
6037716 Posts

Max Online: 16728 @ 03/25/12 08:51 AM
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 >
Topic Options
#5258627 - 08/17/14 07:39 PM Know your knots?
FiremanJG Offline
THF Celebrity

Registered: 12/16/08
Posts: 21806
Loc: Wolfe City, TX
As a Fireman I've had to learn and maintian the ability to use many knots. They come easy to me, but I've seen plenty of guys that have a hard time learning them and a harder time remembering them. Knowing a few knots are a valuable tool for the tool box, especially for a hunter. The ones I use most often are, in order:

Bowline (utility)
Butterfly (life safety)
Figure 8 on a bite (life safety)
Square (utility)
Clove hitch (utility)
Double Fisherman (life safety)
Figure 8 on a double bite (life safety)
Water Knot (life safety with webbing)
Figure 8 follow through (life safety)

A life safety knot is (in the fire service) acceptable to rely on for putting the weight of a person. A utility knot is not acceptable. A bowline used to be acceptable and with a safety knot added I'd trust it, but that's not how it is classified any longer. A life safety knot can also be a utility knot, a utility knot can never be a life safety knot.

With those 8 knots I believe you can do anything you will ever need to do with a rope.


Edited by FiremanJG (08/17/14 08:55 PM)
Edit Reason: added clove hitch
_________________________

800 Yard Steel Range
Precision Rifle Instruction
Memberships and Classes Available

Top
#5258638 - 08/17/14 07:47 PM Re: Know your knots? [Re: FiremanJG]
Gone to Texas Offline
Veteran Tracker

Registered: 07/05/13
Posts: 2642
Loc: Hurst
Good advice, now I need to hit Google and see how to tie these knots!
_________________________

Top
#5258645 - 08/17/14 07:50 PM Re: Know your knots? [Re: FiremanJG]
Nick1 Offline
Woodsman

Registered: 07/27/14
Posts: 244
Loc: Central Tx
Thanks for the heads up. Hey, thanks for the work you do. Your service to keeping us safe is appreciated.

Top
#5258719 - 08/17/14 08:29 PM Re: Know your knots? [Re: Gone to Texas]
FiremanJG Offline
THF Celebrity

Registered: 12/16/08
Posts: 21806
Loc: Wolfe City, TX
Originally Posted By: Gone to Texas
Good advice, now I need to hit Google and see how to tie these knots!


Was hoping I wasn't going to be asked to take pics of these knots. That's been done many times. grin
_________________________

800 Yard Steel Range
Precision Rifle Instruction
Memberships and Classes Available

Top
#5258721 - 08/17/14 08:29 PM Re: Know your knots? [Re: Nick1]
FiremanJG Offline
THF Celebrity

Registered: 12/16/08
Posts: 21806
Loc: Wolfe City, TX
Originally Posted By: Nick1
Thanks for the heads up. Hey, thanks for the work you do. Your service to keeping us safe is appreciated.


Thank you for the kind words.
_________________________

800 Yard Steel Range
Precision Rifle Instruction
Memberships and Classes Available

Top
#5258729 - 08/17/14 08:32 PM Re: Know your knots? [Re: FiremanJG]
Colt W. Knight Offline
Veteran Tracker

Registered: 03/22/11
Posts: 2090
Loc: West Virginia
I teach knots when I lecture freshman animal science courses. It is a life skill many folks simply do not possess any more.

Most folks would also find quick release knots, clove hitches, and hay/tent knots(basically a way to tie a loop and tighten a rope) handy


Edited by Colt W. Knight (08/17/14 08:34 PM)

Top
#5258731 - 08/17/14 08:33 PM Re: Know your knots? [Re: FiremanJG]
Cellis1981 Offline
Light Foot

Registered: 03/08/13
Posts: 29
Loc: Hamilton, Texas
I know it's been said but I'll say it again. Thanks for your service! If you ever make it down this way hit me up and I'll buy ya a beer! cheers
_________________________
"You may all go to hell, I'll go to Texas."

Top
#5258732 - 08/17/14 08:33 PM Re: Know your knots? [Re: FiremanJG]
stxranchman Online   content
Obie Juan Kenobi

Registered: 08/04/10
Posts: 52093
My Dad was in the Navy so I had to learn how to tie a lot of different knots when I was younger. I have not tied a lot of them in many years now so it would take me some practice to do some of them now.
_________________________


Top
#5258775 - 08/17/14 08:54 PM Re: Know your knots? [Re: Colt W. Knight]
FiremanJG Offline
THF Celebrity

Registered: 12/16/08
Posts: 21806
Loc: Wolfe City, TX
Dangit!!! Forgot to list the clove hitch! Thank you.

Going back to edit.
_________________________

800 Yard Steel Range
Precision Rifle Instruction
Memberships and Classes Available

Top
#5258794 - 08/17/14 09:03 PM Re: Know your knots? [Re: FiremanJG]
FiremanJG Offline
THF Celebrity

Registered: 12/16/08
Posts: 21806
Loc: Wolfe City, TX
Trucker's hitch, I use every week. Some call it a hay haulers hitch.

Anchor one end with a bowline. In the middle of the line, somewhat close to the other anchor you're going to tie a butterfly. Take the running end through the other anchor back to the butterfly and use the butterfly as a pulley. We need pics here to make it understandable. You then have made a 3:1 haul system with nothing but rope. You can tighten the rope tigher than dicks hatband. That's whay Colt may be referring to on a tent line. I use it to suck down a piece of lumber or steel that's resting on a closed tailgate to keep it from sliding side to side.
_________________________

800 Yard Steel Range
Precision Rifle Instruction
Memberships and Classes Available

Top
#5258796 - 08/17/14 09:03 PM Re: Know your knots? [Re: Cellis1981]
FiremanJG Offline
THF Celebrity

Registered: 12/16/08
Posts: 21806
Loc: Wolfe City, TX
Deal!
_________________________

800 Yard Steel Range
Precision Rifle Instruction
Memberships and Classes Available

Top
#5258824 - 08/17/14 09:13 PM Re: Know your knots? [Re: FiremanJG]
Simple Searcher Offline
THF Trophy Hunter

Registered: 12/30/12
Posts: 5372
Loc: Helotes, Hext
Thanks for the reminder to brush up on the knot tying. I have had to use my favorite lately AKA the big-o-booger knot.
_________________________


"Man is still a hunter, still a simple searcher after meat..." Robert C. Ruark

Top
#5258836 - 08/17/14 09:18 PM Re: Know your knots? [Re: Simple Searcher]
FiremanJG Offline
THF Celebrity

Registered: 12/16/08
Posts: 21806
Loc: Wolfe City, TX
I was wondering who it would be that would bring up the "if ya can't tie a knot, tie a lot".

The key factors to a good knot are: easy to recognize, easy to tie, and easy to untie even after being loaded.

The bowline and the butterfly are two that really impress me. I've loaded 1/2" rope tied with those knots with hundreds of pounds and was still able to untie them. I have hung my life off of all of the life safety knots I listed. The highest I've done that is 110 feet. Once you learn how to tie them, and figure out how stout good rope and hardware is it's not as scary as it seems.
_________________________

800 Yard Steel Range
Precision Rifle Instruction
Memberships and Classes Available

Top
#5258907 - 08/17/14 10:03 PM Re: Know your knots? [Re: FiremanJG]
Colt W. Knight Offline
Veteran Tracker

Registered: 03/22/11
Posts: 2090
Loc: West Virginia
Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Trucker's hitch, I use every week. Some call it a hay haulers hitch.

Anchor one end with a bowline. In the middle of the line, somewhat close to the other anchor you're going to tie a butterfly. Take the running end through the other anchor back to the butterfly and use the butterfly as a pulley. We need pics here to make it understandable. You then have made a 3:1 haul system with nothing but rope. You can tighten the rope tigher than dicks hatband. That's whay Colt may be referring to on a tent line. I use it to suck down a piece of lumber or steel that's resting on a closed tailgate to keep it from sliding side to side.


10-4. One of my most used knots.



Edited by Colt W. Knight (08/17/14 10:04 PM)

Top
#5258917 - 08/17/14 10:12 PM Re: Know your knots? [Re: Nick1]
Gone to Texas Offline
Veteran Tracker

Registered: 07/05/13
Posts: 2642
Loc: Hurst
Originally Posted By: Nick1
Thanks for the heads up. Hey, thanks for the work you do. Your service to keeping us safe is appreciated.


^^^

Thanks! texas

I'll also buy you a beer if your ever in Fort Worth!
_________________________

Top
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 >



© 2004-2016 OUTDOOR SITES NETWORK all rights reserved USA and Worldwide