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Minimum acres needed to hunt/shoot #4999613 03/01/14 05:42 PM
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Not sure what section this should go in, so if it needs to be moved, sorry. I am going to buy some land in Kaufman county and I have heard that I need at least 10 acres to have my own shooting range and/or hunt even though its outside the city limits. Anyone have experience with this or know the actual laws in Kaufman county? I know it differs by county also. I have already emailed the chief of police but probably wont receive a reply until Monday at the earliest.

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I think it is state law that you need over 10 acres to hunt with a gun.


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So basically just wait for a reply to the email I sent

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Since your in the county, call the Sheriffs dept. The county beside mine has a 10 acre minimum and I don't believe it is a state wide thing. SO will tell you in a few minutes


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Don't go on just what the rules/laws say. Please apply some common sense to the situation as well as what the laws say. Just because it may be legal Dont mean that it is smart. Or of it is set up correctly and with the right terrain, it can be just fine.

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Originally Posted By: Toxarch
I think it is state law that you need over 10 acres to hunt with a gun.



That is not true.

Check your county regulations. Only a few in the state have a minimum to fire a rifle on.

I doubt kaufman county is one.

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I think it is state law that you need over 10 acres to hunt with a gun.



That is not true.

Check your county regulations. Only a few in the state have a minimum to fire a rifle on.

I doubt kaufman county is one.


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Don't think there is a statewide law, it should be on a county by county basis.

There is a State law about projectiles crossing a property line. So if you plan on bird hunting or much of anything other than bench rest shooting into a berm I would keep that in mind.

My neighbors have 5 acres in the county and spray pistol ammo into a dry creek bottom with reckless abandon and it doesn't bother me, if it was flatland and in my direction they would have met the sheriff by now.


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What I found was that it is illegal to discharge a firearm if you own less than 10 acres and are in a subdivision. So if its not a subdivision, I would assume that even if you have 1 acre, its legal. That is all I can find as far as Kaufman county. Hopefully the COP can shed some light on this subject.

I plan on making some type of back stop, probably 12-15' high and I will be shooting up to 300 yards. So I wont just be shooting at a target attached to a tree lol. You have to have some common sense.

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How do you have a property smaller than 10 acres that's 300+ yards long? Really narrow?

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old easement or a piece of land that is cut off by a road or creek... we got a 7 acres strip that's cut off by a private road like that but its prolly 230yrds or so

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A perfectly square 10 acres would be 220 yds x 220 yds. 311 yds corner to corner. (if I did the math right)
Any rectangular shape to the property only increases these yardages.

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I never said how much land I was buying. I am merely trying to find out the laws and regulations. I have actually been looking at 20 acres in Kaufman County. That would be enough for a 300 yard range. However much acreage I end up with will determine how far I can shoot, but it wont be less than 100 yard range. 300 yard range is like my dream yardage lol, anything over 100 yards Im ok with.

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The 10 acre rule is for bow hunting, 50 acres for firearms. The state says a county may not restrict hunting on 10 or more acres with a bow and cannot restrict hunting on 50 or more acres with a firearm. The exception are those same restrictions that were in place before the state law was passed. So your question would be were restrictions placed upon the property by the county before the state law was passed. Again, the local SO (or game warden) can easily answer that question. But there are other restrictions such as minimum number of feet from a public roadway, etc.

This is why you can legally dove hunt inside the city limits of Frisco on certain properties.


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I think it depends on the individual. Some could safely hunt on 5 acres while others cannot hunt safely on a thousand acres.

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Originally Posted By: Dry Fire
The 10 acre rule is for bow hunting, 50 acres for firearms. The state says a county may not restrict hunting on 10 or more acres with a bow and cannot restrict hunting on 50 or more acres with a firearm. The exception are those same restrictions that were in place before the state law was passed. So your question would be were restrictions placed upon the property by the county before the state law was passed. Again, the local SO (or game warden) can easily answer that question. But there are other restrictions such as minimum number of feet from a public roadway, etc.

This is why you can legally dove hunt inside the city limits of Frisco on certain properties.


each city and county will have different regs... I bow hunt a spot that's a 1/4 acre... lol

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Originally Posted By: Dry Fire
The 10 acre rule is for bow hunting, 50 acres for firearms. The state says a county may not restrict hunting on 10 or more acres with a bow and cannot restrict hunting on 50 or more acres with a firearm. The exception are those same restrictions that were in place before the state law was passed. So your question would be were restrictions placed upon the property by the county before the state law was passed. Again, the local SO (or game warden) can easily answer that question. But there are other restrictions such as minimum number of feet from a public roadway, etc.

This is why you can legally dove hunt inside the city limits of Frisco on certain properties.


I havent read anything that said a 50 acre minimum for firearms in Kaufman county... Please send me a link to that info

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Originally Posted By: Jojo4711
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The 10 acre rule is for bow hunting, 50 acres for firearms. The state says a county may not restrict hunting on 10 or more acres with a bow and cannot restrict hunting on 50 or more acres with a firearm. The exception are those same restrictions that were in place before the state law was passed. So your question would be were restrictions placed upon the property by the county before the state law was passed. Again, the local SO (or game warden) can easily answer that question. But there are other restrictions such as minimum number of feet from a public roadway, etc.

This is why you can legally dove hunt inside the city limits of Frisco on certain properties.


I havent read anything that said a 50 acre minimum for firearms in Kaufman county... Please send me a link to that info


It's not that you can't hunt on less than 50 acres, it's that they cannot stop you from hunting as a state law unless there were HOA rules in place prior to your ownership.

i.e. You can likely shoot guns on 10 acres, but if your property is 50 acres, state law protects your right to.

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I live in Collin County.I called the SO and they told me "they", whatever that means,were told ten acres.Looks like the law states in a subdivision but what about unincorporated? Think the local game warden might be of more help?


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Originally Posted By: don k
I think it depends on the individual. Some could safely hunt on 5 acres while others cannot hunt safely on a thousand acres.
Agreed. Other thing that matters, when shooting, for example, is what will happen around your property in 2-10 years. You may not control it, but you should consider it. That's all. Good luck.
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Originally Posted By: don k
I think it depends on the individual. Some could safely hunt on 5 acres while others cannot hunt safely on a thousand acres.


Best statement I've heard! Not enough common sense to go around these days!

If I had the acreage, and there was a house or barn anywhere within sight downrange, berm or no berm, I'd make durn sure I've got good insurance! We've already had two instances where persons discharging firearms on legal size acreage managed to hit a house. One with a stray pistol shot and one from shooting at clay pigeons with a shotgun. These properties bordered, but were not part of, the subdivision. According to neighbors (victims)both parties got to meet the Sheriff.

Some people are missing "reasonable" thought processes & when they do stupid stuff it reflects on all of us. For example: Many people in county subdivisions moved there for peace & quiet. Then some jerk decides to start target shooting at 10 or 11 pm using headlights to show the target and then wonders why the whole neighborhood is on their butt and the Sheriff is at the door.

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The constable I spoke to said there's no minimum outside a subdivision as long as you're outside the city limits.


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I tried calling the constable but no one answered. Guess Ill try tomorrow.

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I had to leave a voice mail and he called me back later.Super nice guy btw.


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Originally Posted By: Hunt n Fish
... We've already had two instances where persons discharging firearms on legal size acreage managed to hit a house. ...


The tract that contains the ranch house is a little over 2000 acres and it got peppered with buckshot one season. bang

Needless to say a couple of fellows didn't get invited back the next year. They gone. grin


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