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Hunting Challenge- Rifle Competition- SIGN UP and Details #4954287 02/05/14 02:51 AM
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Hunting Challenge- Rifle Competition- SIGN UP and Details

We plan to gear this match for hunters and first time "match" shooters. We want targets big enough for hits, but small enough to make it challenging. Range Officers will provide plenty of assistance and guidance, if needed.

Date: Saturday, March 15th, 2014
Time: Check-in begins at 8am, Confirm rifle zero at 100 yards (highly encouraged!) from 8-8:30 am. Match starts at 9 am til about 12 or 1 pm, or until complete
Cost- $50 per shooter
Location- Wolfe City, TX
Number of shooters- 35
Round Count- 50 rifle rounds (bring 60 just in case)

1st place- $100 cash
2nd- $75 cash
3rd-5th get their $50 entry fee back
There will also be some prizes. Jason will donate a free shooting lesson and Custom Reloads will donate some ammo certificates, and maybe a raffle or two.

SIGN UP- Go to www.dallasreloads.com, and on the top right of the home page you will see "Hunting Challenge- Rifle Competition". Click on link, and follow the directions. Payment is due upon sign-up by mailing a check payable to:

Jason Garvey
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Suite 124 PMB 72
Lewisville, TX 75056

Non refundable payment is due immediately upon sign-up. There will be a max of 35 shooters. Once the 35 shooter limit is reached, we will have a waiting list. Entry form is time stamped and money received will be the deciding factors on when the 35th shooter limit is reached.

Competition will be held Saturday, March 15th. The location of the match will be just outside of Wolfe City, TX, between Wolfe City and Bailey, near Highway 11. Cost is $50 per shooter.

Rifle and ammunition information: Max speed limit of 3100 fps! No FMJ bullets. Calibers we could NOT run are 22-250 or 223 Rem running faster than 3000-3100 fps. Anything faster than 3100 fps will dent the steel, or poke through the steel. If you have a question on this, please contact us. Your fast, hot-rod rounds (like a 257 Weatherby) would not be allowed, simply due to the speed of the bullet and damaging the steel targets. Your 308 Win, 270 Win, 7 Mag, 300 Win Mag, should be fine. Round count should be around 40-50 rounds, with each stage having no more than 3 to 5 rounds per stage. The idea of this match is to expose hunters to some challenging and fun courses of fire, while putting you under the time clock for the added stress to make a hit. Scopes that can dial for elevation are welcomed. This match is geared for the basic factory hunting rifles, not the high end competition rifles. Bring any shooting gear you will need to shoot this match- bipods, back packs, ruck sacks, rear sand bags, etc. Each shooter will have a set up time, and then their stage will begin. If you need a loaner rifle, I will offer up my bolt gun 270 Winchester and my suppressed Remington model 7 in 300 Black Out, if you pay for the ammo.

Match details:
We plan to gear this match for the first time "match" shooters. We want targets big enough for hits, but small enough to make it challenging. Stages would consist of steel and reactive targets out to 300 yards. Some shooting positions would be from a bench, prone, standing off-hand, kneeling, off a T-post, off a barricade, and out a deer blind window. Reactive targets would be 2" clay pigeons, steel coyote targets, steel 4" poppers, KYL (know your limits) and any other steel targets or stages we can think of and can come up with. All stages would have a generous time limit to complete the stage. Most targets will be a "HIT" or a "MISS". Whoever has the most points at the end, wins! Here are a few of the ideas we have so far:

KYL (know your limits)- steel
Shooting Off T-post
1" Dot drill at 100 yards
Coyote- steel
Pepper poppers- from the front of a shooting chair mounted on a truck
2” Clay Pigeons, 4” clays between 150 and 200 yards
Deer stand shot- steel plates
Gobbler chair shot- with shooting sticks
Prarie Dog poppers off truck
Maybe a few bonus stages mixed in.

We are thinking about 8-10 stages, maybe 12. If you have some ideas on stages, let us know!!


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Re: Hunting Challenge- Rifle Competition- SIGN UP and Details [Re: ChadTRG42] #4954399 02/05/14 03:50 AM
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I'm in!


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I am in. Look forward to this and maybe we could do something like this every year.

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Is there a min amount of shooters?

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Originally Posted By: wburke2010
I am in. Look forward to this and maybe we could do something like this every year.

Walter


Or maybe twice a year. We'll see how this one goes.

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Is there a min amount of shooters?


Taking 35 applications max. Need 30 minimum to show up.


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IMO the payouts should be bigger or stay the same with smaller entry fees if this was truly designed to be a "friendly competition".

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$50 x 35 shooters is $1750, minus the payouts, is $1425. Trust me, that is a very small amount when you factor in some steel targets, gas for machinery to build some berms, materials to build targets, and the set up time it will take for about 2-4 guys for about 2 days of work. I just paid $275 for a 2 day competition, and $50 is too much!!?? I think you may need to come out and see what is truly involved before you can understand. It's not being done to make money.


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Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42
$50 x 35 shooters is $1750, minus the payouts, is $1425. Trust me, that is a very small amount when you factor in some steel targets, gas for machinery to build some berms, materials to build targets, and the set up time it will take for about 2-4 guys for about 2 days of work. I just paid $275 for a 2 day competition, and $50 is too much!!?? I think you may need to come out and see what is truly involved before you can understand. It's not being done to make money.


Um ok...same place as here I assume.


http://www.texashuntingforum.com/forum/u...a_m#Post4605362

Call this what it is, but you will not convince me it was not done without ulterior motives.

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I am in. Look forward to this and maybe we could do something like this every year.

Walter


Or maybe twice a year. We'll see how this one goes.

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Is there a min amount of shooters?


Taking 35 applications max. Need 30 minimum to show up.


I would be in for twice a year. I am glad yall are putting this on as I have wanted to get started in it for a while just never could make it happen yet. Look forward to checking out your new range, and doing some shooting.

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Originally Posted By: jbd76266
IMO the payouts should be bigger or stay the same with smaller entry fees if this was truly designed to be a "friendly competition".



You do one then.... this sounds fair to me, a lotta work goes into something like this.




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Can there be a poorboys class? lol cheap rifles only

Hope it goes well man sounds fun!

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Originally Posted By: Navasot
Can there be a poorboys class? lol cheap rifles only

Hope it goes well man sounds fun!


That would be me, Savage 110, 7mm08 with a Prostaff scope, just going to have some fun. Come on and join me with a "cheap rifle".


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Can there be a poorboys class? lol cheap rifles only

Hope it goes well man sounds fun!


That would be me, Savage 110, 7mm08 with a Prostaff scope, just going to have some fun. Come on and join me with a "cheap rifle".


up savage 110 .270win

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Can there be a poorboys class? lol cheap rifles only

Hope it goes well man sounds fun!


That would be me, Savage 110, 7mm08 with a Prostaff scope, just going to have some fun. Come on and join me with a "cheap rifle".


up savage 110 .270win


Hey,we be mates!!!! Lets have some fun with the big boys.


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Can I use this? This is really what I use for hunting although it is always from a rest. 308 at probably 2500FPS?



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Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42
$50 x 35 shooters is $1750, minus the payouts, is $1425. Trust me, that is a very small amount when you factor in some steel targets, gas for machinery to build some berms, materials to build targets, and the set up time it will take for about 2-4 guys for about 2 days of work. I just paid $275 for a 2 day competition, and $50 is too much!!?? I think you may need to come out and see what is truly involved before you can understand. It's not being done to make money.


Um ok...same place as here I assume.


http://www.texashuntingforum.com/forum/u...a_m#Post4605362

Call this what it is, but you will not convince me it was not done without ulterior motives.


Chad called me in January wanting to hold a hunter's match. He wanted my input on the stages and asked if he could have it at my range. That's it. There's no ulterior motives. This is Chad's idea, and his match, I'm hosting it, and helping with the course of fire design. It will take me three or four days to build berms JUST FOR THIS MATCH! Then when the match is over I will be having to tear them down. I will also have to move steel targets back to their original location since we have to rob them from 400, 500, 600, 700 and 800 yard locations. I'll have days of work on the skid steer, diesel in my truck, diesel in the skid steer, and will have to build some target stands, and paper holders JUST FOR THIS MATCH.

Still think Chad and I are getting rich holding this, or there are ulterior motives? I can assure you I have a mile long list of work I need to be doing on the range that does not include this match. But I'm a friend of Chad's, he asked for my help, so I'm helping. I'm also wanting to have a fun day with some THF members I've never met in person before.

If you think this is a shady deal, don't come out. If I've convinced you otherwise, sign up, pay the entry fee, and come out and have some fun!


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KRoyal,

As long as you only load the necessary rounds for the stage. The stages we have that you make a shot, and have to change positions you will have to load extra, because you will need to lock the action open prior to changing positions, and will end up manually ejecting a live round on the dirt. Sorry bud, guys with AR's can have an advantage on some stages and be at a disadvatage on others. This is standard procedure in tactical matches.

No matter what else happens safety is priority one. And a rifle can't fire if the bolt is locked back.


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I'll know better after this weekend whether I can make it.


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KRoyal,

As long as you only load the necessary rounds for the stage. The stages we have that you make a shot, and have to change positions you will have to load extra, because you will need to lock the action open prior to changing positions, and will end up manually ejecting a live round on the dirt. Sorry bud, guys with AR's can have an advantage on some stages and be at a disadvatage on others. This is standard procedure in tactical matches.

No matter what else happens safety is priority one. And a rifle can't fire if the bolt is locked back.


Gotcha, I have 2 mags so I could load the necessary rounds and shoot it will lock back automatically and I can load my new mag after changing positions. How many position changes are there in any one shot?


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Still havn't hammered that out yet. The majority of stations you WILL NOT have to change positions. You may have to swing the rifle to another target, but not change your shooting position completely. I just wanted to let you know that there will be some occasions where you will need to lock the bolt back, but it is the minority of stations.


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Gotcha. Well if no one has any issue with me using it I'll be signing up. My buddy and I will come out and shoot it.


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Fireman if you need some more Targets I told chad that I have one square plate that has a swinger above from big dog steel. I also have a stand that I made for hanging a target that I now longer use that you are welcome too. Let me know if you need some and I will shoot you a picture of them.

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