So I got my momarsh fatboy DP, stumpjumper 7 hp, and 16 foot trailer. Thinking about getting a jonboat to give me another boating option that will deal with big water better than the momarsh. I can use my same trailer and same motor, so I get to leverage those investments, seems like a good set-up???

I traded e-mail with Bill that makes the stumpjumper, and wanted his thoughts on the biggest boat that motor will push, and he said the motor does good on 1436 flat bottom, short transom and make sure it is a true flat at the stern of the boat and not a v-bottom. Thoughts on this? Recommendation on a Jonboat? Looks like it is only available in riveted, probably all I need???

This is my motor....
http://www.stump-jumper.com/stump-jumper.html

The Jon boat was invented by a guy named Jon.

I bought a used 1748 Lowe with a waterfowl hull. Currently running a 50HP outboard. Good boat but will be upgrading to some sort of mud motor next year. This is a welded boat but some of the addons are riveted and the rivet's did not last very long.

A 1436 is not a very stable ride in rough water. I'm a pretty big boy and I wouldn't get in a 14 ft boat. I had a 1650 with 24 in sides with a 35 and it was a warhorse. Sometimes I'd wish for a bigger boat with 3 guys a dog and gear.

I own a 1436 flat bottom with a 9.9 hp Mercury. With just me, the dog and gear it pushes us plenty fast enough for my needs. When you add another 200+ pound guy and all the same gear it slows down considerably.

I would say it would probably be ok if you didn't have to travel very far in the boat to get to your hunting holes. If you need to navigate a considerable portion of the lake to get there it would take forever.

Also I don't know how confident I would be with it in "big water". I use mine in plenty of N-TX lakes but I'm very cautious about hugging the bank just in case we get into trouble. If the wind is over 20 mph I usually don't get the boat out.

I'm sure there are others with more experience/knowledge about these boats.

Guy you should just sell me that little dinky boat and motor on the cheap and buy you a REAL duck rig

Guy, you may want to post this on mudmotortalk in the long-tail section. I agree with duckhunter55 a 1436 isn't much boat for rough water.

I use my 18'6 Ranger bass boat, I only get her up to 61 mph.....

It's got to be more boat than my Momarsh on rough water. The question is how much more for me to bother getting one. I would never sell my Momarsh to buy a 1436, but both using same motor and trailer I'm kinda liking that idea giving me more options with minimal investment.

Pm sent. 1436 will handle rough water if you are driving into/with the wind and are experienced driver. Its not desirable but would work. Not good for sitting in rough water or putt putting around. You have to GOO! lol

I'm loving that boat, it is great in shallow. You never get stuck in it because it does not plane, the slower you go the shallower you can go. I saw you made post about vegetation and response was that all mud motors do good in vegetation, my boat motors right thru any type vegetation.

I figured one of those little boats would putt right along.

Lol

Don't buy anything smaller than a 1648 if you plan on taking a freind and a dog. I've hunted and fished out of a 1436 and there is no comparison. Weldbuilt makes a great all welded affordable boat. You can call the guys that make them in arkansas and they'll custom build your boat to whatever spec you want. I had them build me a 1648 the way I wanted it and everyone I hunted and fished with In East Texas switched to this boat. I moved back to west Texas after having the boat 5 years and sold it for what I paid.

My best boat ever was a 1652 SeaArk with a 40HP motor. Very versatile and easy to use.

I've got a 542 War Eagle that I love. I've had it out this year in 15-20mph winds with one other guy with me. I wouldn't add a 3rd person in that kinda wind unless I'm hugging the shore line. It can get nasty.

That same morning I saw a guy with a 14', loaded down with 3 dudes, 3 HUGE bags of dekes and a dog. He was the first one out of the ramp. Several other guys pulled in as I was pushing out and we chatted about the overload. We all fully expected to be doing a rescue that morning. Luckily, we didn't.

I would strongly suggest not to get a 14x36 for "big water", if you are crossing water that may get bad it is a very bad idea, I have personally pulled out two different groups of hunters that had boats that size that thought they would be fine.
When those boats are loaded with dogs, decoys, waders, and everything else they do not do well with much chop at all.
One group we pulled from the water a few years ago would not have made it if we did not see them floating in the water, the waves capsized their boat and they were in the water for over 40 minutes, it was about 20 degrees, they could not move much or even talk.

Guy, I've got lots of boats, some welded and some riveted.
1232,1436, 1448, 1538, and 1648. I will honestly say I wouldn't go "rough" water with the 1436. But, I aint scared of big water as long as you can hit it head on. Any kind of waves and it starts to get scary. I've even been scared in the 1648. Not sure on the speeds you'll get in the boat either, I'd check around for that.

Hey mo, it's about knowing the limits of your boat. Right? Those that get themselves in trouble push the limits, it does not matter what size boat you have, you can always get yourself in trouble if you push the limits of your boat. I know the limits of my boat, I'm thinking a 1436 will allow me to do more, it will extend my limits, at least I think it will. I know Rob said he felt saver on a 10 ft Jon boat vs the rig I have, based on that I'm thinking a 14 ft Jon boat will allow me to do more... Also my boat is great for layout boat, but if I'm not using my boat for a layout blind, Jon boat is probably better, more room for deeks etc...

I use to use a 1436 and it can be pretty sketchy in rough water but we would make a 2 mile trip across the lake just fine. It had two guys and gear and a homemade 13 hp mudmotor that was way to heavy for the boat and if it got too rough we would take in water in the back but with the small longtail you shouldn't have any problems.

The problem you have is a 1436 will not handle any more water with that 7hp than your little boat. Most of the time when you head out in the morning "it is not that bad" once the sunrise hits it gets worse. You will quickly learn that 5-10 MPH wind means find a alternate ramp or stay home. You end up hunting areas you don't want to with a small boat. If your going to hunt "big Water" then get a big water boat it's not worth trying it out a couple of times.

This is very true, kinda what I was trying say.
I just do not think you are going to be able to do much more than what your Momarsh can already do. If you just plan on hunting alone in the 1436 you will have more room but if the plan is to take a buddy it will not be very safe unless you stay out of the wind.
You will be very limited on were you can hunt with that rig.

I'm not sure what your other boat will handle wave wise. The 1436 is a good boat for that motor though. It will let you haul more and in calm water it should work with three foks fairly well as long as you arent going far. As far as wind and waves thats really going to depend on what you consider big water. Launching and hunting the back of a cove thats no more than a mile wide with two people in the boat and you would be fine. Big open lake with the boat loaded down and it could get bad quick.

I have a 1232 and a dixie 6.5 horse and that boat is too small. With one person it squats way too low in the back and with two it plows deep through the water. It works for where I use it because with the motor off of the boat two people can literally carry it 100 yards with no problems. With the motor on it you can drag it across levees and dry ground. I throw it all in the back of the truck and no such thing as no launch. Ive also ran the same motor on a 1236 and it was much much better. The extra bottom area will let it run on top with one person and actually does pretty good with three people in calm waters.

I would go with the 1436 but be aware of your limitations.

Yep well said
1st time you have to change plans on the fly your in trouble in the smaller boat, also think about the kids and get some really good PDF's!!!
you might want to look at a layout style boat, they cost more but they are made for big waters too?

If he build a custom boat he can put taller sides on it. If he is already hunting out of a momarsh and just wants to cover a little more ground a 1436 would be fine. Although he could go just a bit bigger and still not gain much weight. I sold my 2054 center console with modded gator tail back in the summer because it was way to big....long story short. So I had to start this season with a loaner from my buddy. He has a 1542 weldbuilt with 25hp outboard. and man I loved that thing!! I had about a 2 mile ride through one of the roughest parts of our lake, and never even got wet. about 2' waves. Best part was the water level had come up in the spot I hunted and was able to drag the boat up in the brush/trees and hunt sitting on the back seat. Heater sitting next to me and dog in the boat as well. Something I would have never been able to do with the 2054 or 1854 that I had before. There is something great about having a boat light enough to man handle. I would have had to park the bigger boats 1/4 mile away in this particular spot and walk back and stand in the water and hang all my gear and we know thats a hassle. With all that said. If you hunt solo or two guys the small boat is where its at. Everybody wants the biggest and baddest... and I did too!! Spent 20k on the center console and about 14k on the 1854 and I will be building my own sneak boat first of 2014. Will have 1500 or so in the boat and depending on motor 1500 to 3000. and I will still get to all the spots just as safe and as fast. not to mention be able to hide better and not get stuck like the big boats. If you want a boat strictly for duck hunting Id stick with 15' and below and 42"-36". Very versatile. Once I start building mine I will start a thread.