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#4695005 - 10/27/13 01:35 PM One rifle for North America
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I am an experienced shooter, but I've never hunted big game. Not going into the why's, all I've hunted in my life is small game with an air rifle. I have owned and shot quite a few different rifles however, and I know what to expect from them. I would like to get my first deer, and I want a rifle that will get the job done on dangerous game in Alaska with confidence. I have pretty much decided on .300 win mag based off the price of ammo, and the variety of ammo available from loads pushing nearly 4,000 fpe to managed recoil loads around 2,000 fpe. Not interested in a .338 because the cheapest stuff I've seen is about $40 for a box of 20, plus I already know some of you are gonna shake your head at the newbie that wants to hunt whitetails in Texas with a .300 win mag. The advice I'm looking for is recommendations for a solid rifle that lasts, one I can shoot for the rest of my days and pass down, that costs around $400. I appreciate it fellas

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#4695009 - 10/27/13 01:39 PM Re: One rifle for North America [Re: Regular Guy]
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300 win is a good caliber, IMO its too small for dangerous game you really need a 375 for that. Its great on all North american game, I personally shoot one a lot. Thats a pretty tight budget but you could pick up a remington 700 used or a savage for that, without optics.
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#4695029 - 10/27/13 01:52 PM Re: One rifle for North America [Re: Regular Guy]
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You want to be so cheap we can't even help you. Big rifles need good ammo and premium bullets.

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#4695034 - 10/27/13 01:54 PM Re: One rifle for North America [Re: HorizonFirearms]
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A trust it with my life, dangerous game, heirloom quality $400 rifle... Let's see...

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#4695063 - 10/27/13 02:08 PM Re: One rifle for North America [Re: T Bone]
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I'd rather have a .338, but a .300 WM will work just fine, even on Alaska brownies with the right bullet.

The Howa/Weatherby Vanguard would be my choice in a rifle in your price range. I shot my first brown bear with a Howa, but in .338 WM.
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#4695075 - 10/27/13 02:13 PM Re: One rifle for North America [Re: dawaba]
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In your budget, I'd recommend a .30-06. There is not much you can't do with that rifle in North America. You can fit your budget of $400 on a good used bolt gun.
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#4695083 - 10/27/13 02:19 PM Re: One rifle for North America [Re: MewshawTX]
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300 win mag would be my first choice if i was limited to only one rifle, 7mm mag would be 2nd choice.

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#4695133 - 10/27/13 02:45 PM Re: One rifle for North America [Re: texasdude28]
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You can probably find a lot of used 30-06 rifles in that price range. Ammo can be found just about anywhere and is not expensive. It will kill anything in the Americas if the shooter does their part.
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#4695138 - 10/27/13 02:48 PM Re: One rifle for North America [Re: Brother in-law]
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Originally Posted By: Brother in-law
You want to be so cheap we can't even help you. Big rifles need good ammo and premium bullets.


X2

That's like saying you want to run the Daytona 500 in a ford fusion

You need to understand terminal ballistics and what makes a cartridge good or bad.

Min. For North America is a .338 win mag
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#4695153 - 10/27/13 02:55 PM Re: One rifle for North America [Re: texasdude28]
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I have hunted elk 21 years in Colorado killed 8 and never had one run off with a 7 mag.I have killed lots of hogs, doe deer on a cull situation with 150 grain core loc bullets. Its consistent and I don't mess with it. Did a trigger job, floated the barrel, Leupold 3x9 scope changed to 175 weight wasn't happy with it so I am back to 150 grain core lock,3 years ago I shot a buffalo cow and put her right down. You got to be happy with your rifle (confident in its ability to hit and kill)Good luck
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#4695156 - 10/27/13 03:00 PM Re: One rifle for North America [Re: txtrophy85]
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Originally Posted By: txtrophy85
Originally Posted By: Brother in-law
You want to be so cheap we can't even help you. Big rifles need good ammo and premium bullets.


X2

That's like saying you want to run the Daytona 500 in a ford fusion

You need to understand terminal ballistics and what makes a cartridge good or bad.

Min. For North America is a .338 win mag



I dunno about that. My experience with Alaskan guides over 14 hunts there.....they tend to buy the cheapest WalMart ammo too.

I do agree with the.338, a personal favorite of mine, but there are no flies on a Howa in .300 WM.
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#4695172 - 10/27/13 03:07 PM Re: One rifle for North America [Re: cabledad]
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Thanks for the good advice. For the naysayers/insulting posters, please keep it to yourself. If you think I am unreasonable to expect to be able to pay less than $40 for a box of 20 rounds, or pay no more than $400 for a rifle that will last and can be passed down, you must live a privileged life. Would I pay it for the ammo? If I were hunting game that warranted it in order to kill reliably and humanely. The .300 winmag gives me that versatility. I don't need a fancy walnut stock or any of that nonsense. I need a rifle that works. There are guns for a lot less that will get the job done. If I were really a cheapskate I'd get a nagant and call it a day.

Edit- The $400 budget is for rifle alone. I would prefer something that comes with decent irons, or i will put a cheap scope on it to last until I can afford some quality glass.


Edited by Regular Guy (10/27/13 03:28 PM)
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#4695188 - 10/27/13 03:13 PM Re: One rifle for North America [Re: Regular Guy]
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Originally Posted By: Regular Guy
Thanks for the good advice. For the naysayers/insulting posters, please keep it to yourself. If you think I am unreasonable to expect to be able to pay less than $40 for a box of 20 rounds, or pay no more than $400 for a rifle that will last and can be passed down, you must live a privileged life. Would I pay it for the ammo? If I were hunting game that warranted it in order to kill reliably and humanely. The .300 winmag gives me that versatility. I don't need a fancy walnut stock or any of that nonsense. I need a rifle that works. There are guns for a lot less that will get the job done. If I were really a cheapskate I'd get a nagant and call it a day.


That's the spirit! I know an Inupiat Eskimo who hunts grizzlies with a Ruger Mini 14 in .223. Not my cup of tea, but he feels his outfit is the cat's meow!
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#4695195 - 10/27/13 03:15 PM Re: One rifle for North America [Re: Regular Guy]
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Yep - 300 mag is certainly up too the task.

But, to stay in budget I'd look at a clean, used, classic .30-06 and use the change to put some glass on it and buy some ammo!


Edited by Marc Kurth (10/27/13 03:15 PM)
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#4695206 - 10/27/13 03:22 PM Re: One rifle for North America [Re: Regular Guy]
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So, just to recap... You can, in theory, afford a dangerous game hunt in Alaska but can't spend more than $400 on the rifle... And those of us suggesting that you might want to increase your budget are... privileged..?? And who said anything about a fancy walnut stock..? Cheap rifles are cheap for a reason..
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