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Re: another reason why south texas is better than the rest of the state
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10/22/13 02:14 AM
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No big deer in Grayson county. I agree there are far more big deer in south Texas, but for fair chase deer that have never been fed protein and corn there are some monsters up here in Grayson also.
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Re: another reason why south texas is better than the rest of the state
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10/22/13 02:49 AM
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Re: another reason why south texas is better than the rest of the state
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I agree there are far more big deer in south Texas, .
That was the entire point of this argument
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: another reason why south texas is better than the rest of the state
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10/22/13 03:59 PM
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go to the Boone and Crockett website and it shows the most typical and non typical book deer over the past 30 years by county - Maverick County first in both categories by a pretty large number - sorry!
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Re: another reason why south texas is better than the rest of the state
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10/22/13 05:09 PM
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Grayson county is better. Get over it. :-)
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Re: another reason why south texas is better than the rest of the state
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10/22/13 05:24 PM
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I agree there are far more big deer in south Texas, .
That was the entire point of this argument There are more deer.... now if you took average mature deer scores of each.... betting your agruement strength lessons quickly
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Re: another reason why south texas is better than the rest of the state
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10/22/13 05:31 PM
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I agree there are far more big deer in south Texas, .
That was the entire point of this argument There are more deer.... now if you took average mature deer scores of each.... betting your agruement strength lessons quickly but then again your dealing with a lesser number vs. a higher number. the ratio will be skered. I'm not saying that grayson is a bad county for deer or anything like that. I'm not. Just stating the proven fact that Maverick is the No.1 county in texas for boone and crockett deer. that's all. Its a documented fact. and that is for low fence, free range. if you throw high fence in there it blows all the others outta the water and leaves them flapping on the bank like goldfish
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Re: another reason why south texas is better than the rest of the state
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10/22/13 05:33 PM
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I understand, how many BC entries in the last 10years?
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Re: another reason why south texas is better than the rest of the state
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10/22/13 05:37 PM
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I understand, how many BC entries in the last 10years? a lot. more than grayson.
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: another reason why south texas is better than the rest of the state
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10/22/13 05:42 PM
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Sorry boys. I'll take the panhandle. South Texas is good but I'll take the Big white tail, Mule Deer, Pheasant, goose combo.
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Re: another reason why south texas is better than the rest of the state
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10/22/13 05:49 PM
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I understand, how many BC entries in the last 10years? a lot. more than grayson. I didn't ask that.. .how many have been entered In last 10 years?
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Re: another reason why south texas is better than the rest of the state
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I understand, how many BC entries in the last 10years? a lot. more than grayson. I didn't ask that.. .how many have been entered In last 10 years? it did not break it down like that. I know of 5 personally in the last 6 years
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Re: another reason why south texas is better than the rest of the state
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10/22/13 06:12 PM
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Cool, point is its a terrible source to use for current and future trends.
I know 3 off my old ranch in the last four years that net all time that will never be entered, I know of another ranch that has produced 6 net bc in the last 4 years, those will never be entered into the book nor state record books.
I know of a ranch down south that won't allow you to enter deer in contest under its name much less enter in the book.
I've seen several book deer come of places with in 100 miles of DFW that will never be seen by people except a very few.
Again BC record book is a terrible refference
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Re: another reason why south texas is better than the rest of the state
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STX wasn't restocked northern deer...so if talking native deer STX will win out.
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Re: another reason why south texas is better than the rest of the state
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Cool, point is its a terrible source to use for current and future trends.
I know 3 off my old ranch in the last four years that net all time that will never be entered, I know of another ranch that has produced 6 net bc in the last 4 years, those will never be entered into the book nor state record books.
I know of a ranch down south that won't allow you to enter deer in contest under its name much less enter in the book.
I've seen several book deer come of places with in 100 miles of DFW that will never be seen by people except a very few.
Again BC record book is a terrible refference was your old ranch in grayson county?
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Re: another reason why south texas is better than the rest of the state
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10/22/13 06:42 PM
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Grayson is the best :-) its hard to accept
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Re: another reason why south texas is better than the rest of the state
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10/22/13 06:49 PM
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No, but boone and crooket shows zero entries for that county I know of 3 deer killed in a county right next to grayson county that willnever be seen by 99.9% of the public. All shot same property. Ask grayson if he entered both those deer off his place in the book? And then ask him if they shot a third 200" if he would enter it in another contest Again BC book is a terrible resource for current and future booners. There is no way for us to say or confirm current bc deer being shot any where. You know as well as I do there are more bad things that can happen about posting big deer then not posting or entering deer.
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Re: another reason why south texas is better than the rest of the state
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10/22/13 06:53 PM
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STX king ranch wasn't restocked northern deer...so if talking native deer STX king will win out.
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Re: another reason why south texas is better than the rest of the state
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No, but boone and crooket shows zero entries for that county I know of 3 deer killed in a county right next to grayson county that willnever be seen by 99.9% of the public. All shot same property. Ask grayson if he entered both those deer off his place in the book? And then ask him if they shot a third 200" if he would enter it in another contest Again BC book is a terrible resource for current and future booners. There is no way for us to say or confirm current bc deer being shot any where. You know as well as I do there are more bad things that can happen about posting big deer then not posting or entering deer. I agree with that statement about putting deer in the books. So, based upon documented facts, grayson has Zero entries. We know of one for sure and throw in 2 more for good measure. Add in the next counties deer as well. that is 5 Maverick has over 40 entries. so why are we still arguing about the better deer county??? We know darn good and well that grayson county has not produced 40 net boone and crockett entries.
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Re: another reason why south texas is better than the rest of the state
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10/22/13 07:20 PM
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STX king ranch wasn't restocked northern deer...so if talking native deer STX king will win out. In sure there's orange deer walking around STX.
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Re: another reason why south texas is better than the rest of the state
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10/22/13 07:34 PM
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Cool, point is its a terrible source to use for current and future trends.
I know 3 off my old ranch in the last four years that net all time that will never be entered, I know of another ranch that has produced 6 net bc in the last 4 years, those will never be entered into the book nor state record books.
I know of a ranch down south that won't allow you to enter deer in contest under its name much less enter in the book.
I've seen several book deer come of places with in 100 miles of DFW that will never be seen by people except a very few.
Again BC record book is a terrible refference You think the only people who do not enter deer in B&C/contests and shy away from publicity live north of IH-10? Can you state how many folks south of IH-10 have killed book deer or contest winning deer on there hunting land?
Are idiots multiplying faster than normal people?
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Re: another reason why south texas is better than the rest of the state
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10/22/13 07:43 PM
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That's why I mention a south texas ranch also. .... no way to prove how many are being killed in the north or south tx.
Yes history 10+ years ago show stx producing a ton. And they still do. But with management improvements north tx isn't doing to bad with less deer, smaller ranches and more people.
I no longer think one county is better then another (out side of kelberg), think it comes down more to the ranch than anything.
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Re: another reason why south texas is better than the rest of the state
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It does come down to the individual ranch and their management. The larger the acreage the better the odds of producing those high scoring bucks improves. That large acreage needs be in any county with great habitat and habitat management. I had forgotten about one ranch in Maverick County also that will produce really huge deer every year. Management has improved in South Texas also and even more ranches are producing book deer today than 10 yrs ago. There are probably more poached south of IH-10 that make the book than one realizes.
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Re: another reason why south texas is better than the rest of the state
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That's why I mention a south texas ranch also. .... no way to prove how many are being killed in the north or south tx.
Yes history 10+ years ago show stx producing a ton. And they still do. But with management improvements north tx isn't doing to bad with less deer, smaller ranches and more people.
I no longer think one county is better then another (out side of kelberg), think it comes down more to the ranch than anything.
I agree that it comes down the the property having good genetics and nutrition There are more of those properties down south than anywhere else. That's why they kill so many book deer
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Re: another reason why south texas is better than the rest of the state
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10/22/13 09:17 PM
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It does come down to the individual ranch and their management. The larger the acreage the better the odds of producing those high scoring bucks improves. That large acreage needs be in any county with great habitat and habitat management. I had forgotten about one ranch in Maverick County also that will produce really huge deer every year. Management has improved in South Texas also and even more ranches are producing book deer today than 10 yrs ago. There are probably more poached south of IH-10 that make the book than one realizes. Yelp I agree North Tx can do more with less acreage
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