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Re: Rifle Cleaning for deer season- NO oil!!
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12/08/15 04:04 PM
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Thar be a difference between them thar bench rest target chooters & them thar average hunters... Me thread fun-de-mentals of chooten , tis done gone missen, proper English i think... Yet do know about Kentucky english ... The maintanance of the gun tis more ta prevent melfunctions & will help on resell.. Kinda like guy at work maken fun of me ol beat up dodge... Doing best could with what little i had, it was already in bad shape, money i spent twas ta keep it running...
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Re: Rifle Cleaning for deer season- NO oil!!
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12/08/15 04:05 PM
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If cleaning the barrel was not a good idea, why do benchrest target shooters clean their barrels frequently between shots?? Those fellas can shoot rings around most of the deer hunters on this forum. They are regularly shooting sub M.O.A. groups from CLEAN barrels. You got some splaining to do, Lucy! Benchrest is a totally different shooting discipline. The will shoot and clean often, sometimes every 5 rounds. But as a hunter or shooter for field use, you don't have the time or ability to clean every few shots. You need the rifle to maintain an internal consistency. You can't do this with consistent cleaning and oiling the barrel internally. The best thing to do is to shoot enough to know your rifle and when accuracy falls of (about 70-150 rounds or more). Most shooters over clean there rifles and do not re-sight in correctly with fouling rounds. This is an important aspect. The idea of this topic was to get a cleaning method that works for field and hunting use. If you want to clean every other shot like the benchresters do, by all means do it. Let me know how your groups are and what kind of extreme spread you get on the velocities. I'll bet you my method will out shoot the benchrest method, and be more consistent, especially at longer ranges.
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Re: Rifle Cleaning for deer season- NO oil!!
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12/08/15 06:03 PM
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Wow, almost 19,000 views on this topic!
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Re: Rifle Cleaning for deer season- NO oil!!
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12/08/15 07:19 PM
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I will take that bet , Chad.
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Re: Rifle Cleaning for deer season- NO oil!!
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12/11/15 03:03 AM
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This has been a free public service announcement from an official THF rifle expert. Thanks for watching.
Y'all could do like me and never clean it until it quits shooting sub MOA. That's every few months. what? no WD-40?
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Re: Rifle Cleaning for deer season- NO oil!!
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12/23/15 04:07 AM
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a must-read for all hunters ^ ^ ^ ^ on page 1
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Re: Rifle Cleaning for deer season- NO oil!!
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08/22/16 02:24 PM
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How about a bump and a reminder for upcoming deer season!!!!
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Re: Rifle Cleaning for deer season- NO oil!!
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08/22/17 02:52 AM
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In the Texas panhandle, 400+ yard shots are common. Both my main hunting rifles are sub half minute. At the end of the hunting seasons I thoroughly clean them. At the beginning of the season I'll foul the barrels at the range with anywhere from 12-15 shots and not clean the barrel again until season is over. The only exception is if I'm hunting in bad weather. In that case I'll run a dry bore snake through them a couple of times.
Some have said they have never cleaned their rifle barrel after years of use. They'll probably still work for deer in the woods but would like to see how they perform on 200-300 yard prairie dogs or 400 yard coyotes. My guess is not well.
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Re: Rifle Cleaning for deer season- NO oil!!
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08/22/17 03:10 AM
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In the Texas panhandle, 400+ yard shots are common. Yea, the deer jump up at 100 yards and the 120 mph wind blows them 300 yards more..... My dad was from Wheeler County. Really love the Panhandle. Seriously. For those that use bore snakes, try the Otis cable cleaning kit instead. It uses patches and brushes like a rod. Every pass can use a clean patch. Boresnskes are known to be capable of causing problems with barrel crowns.
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Re: Rifle Cleaning for deer season- NO oil!!
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08/22/17 11:34 AM
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Lol, yep the wind can get them out there in a hurry. The bore snake always goes through the chamber just like my cleaning rod. Never through the muzzle.
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Re: Rifle Cleaning for deer season- NO oil!!
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08/22/17 11:49 AM
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Every year I hear stories of hunters missing a deer, and they have no idea why they missed. After talking to them, they had their rifle cleaned spotless and all slicked up with oil on the inside of the barrel after shooting and zeroing their scope. Oil is a great barrel protector, but not on the inside when you are ready for making an accurate and precise shot.
So, how do you clean a rifle and keep the barrel fouled in and zero'd for deer season? Most rifles will shoot around 50 to 300 rounds (or more) before accuracy begins to fall off. Most hunters clean their rifles way before this time. I clean my rifles before I shoot them at the gun range. I run a patch on a jag (pointed metal tip) soaked in Butch's bore shine for about 2-4 patches. I'll run these through the barrel back and forth until I see I have the barrel almost clean. I stop there, and put 2-3 dry patches to get any remaining liquid out. (If you clean the barrel 100% clean, it will usually take 2-7 rounds to get the barreled "fouled" back in, and shooting accurately.) Now, the rifle is ready to shoot and get the barrel fouled in. During cleaning, the solvent's remove copper and powder fouling. "Fouled in" means the barrel has some copper build up from the bullets in the rifling, which will help make a consistent and repeatable shot. Since I didn't clean the barrel to bare metal, I usually only need 1-2 rounds to confirm my zero is dead on and shooting consistent. Once you confirm your zero, don't touch the inside of the barrel again! This is where most hunters make their mistakes. They will clean it again and oil it up inside and out. Outside oil is fine. It will help protect the outside of the rifle. But oil inside the barrel will cause the rounds to go anywhere they want to go, often not where you wanted. A little oil on the bolt and race way is also fine. I put some oil on a patch, and put the patch on the areas I want to oil. If you put drops of oil directly on the parts, it will seep into other areas you may not want oil.
What if the barrel gets wet? Run a dry patch though the barrel and call it good. If you have to clean it, do a light cleaning, like 1 wet patch followed up by a couple dry patch's, but NO oil on the inside.
If you drop it in the mud, push out any debris with a dry patch, then give it a light cleaning, but no oil. Some hunters carry a bore snake. This is good for removing any debris, but does not do much for actually "cleaning" the inside of the rifle.
If I am storing my rifles for a long period, I will put a coat of oil inside the barrel. But before I shoot it, I will clean it, and get any oil out of the inside of the barrel. This is why I clean my rifles at the range before I shoot them.
I hope this helps some of the hunters who over clean their rifles, thinking that's what's needed. Great post and exactly correct method. I also do not touch my barrel after it is dead on. I do wipe down the bolt and outside of the gun with a powder solvent to clean it off and wipe the exposed surfaces with oil lightly.
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Re: Rifle Cleaning for deer season- NO oil!!
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08/22/17 02:39 PM
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This thread is 4 years old now, and I hope it has helped some hunters out in the field. It's still a good one, though!
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Re: Rifle Cleaning for deer season- NO oil!!
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08/22/17 07:26 PM
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I use a boresnake, W/O oil, rarely.
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Re: Rifle Cleaning for deer season- NO oil!!
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08/22/17 08:39 PM
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For what it is worth, I agree 100% with TadTRG42. Not because I am too lazy to keep my guns clean, hell Like probably everyone on this forum I am anal about cleaning guns and love doing it. But Tad is correct I have personally proven that concept.
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Re: Rifle Cleaning for deer season- NO oil!!
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10/04/17 03:41 PM
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Ok, it's that time of year again! I'm going to bump this thread again to educate some hunters about proper cleaning methods!
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Re: Rifle Cleaning for deer season- NO oil!!
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10/04/17 10:02 PM
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Your method will outshoot the benchrest guys?? Really?? I say B.S.
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Re: Rifle Cleaning for deer season- NO oil!!
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10/04/17 10:19 PM
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Your method will outshoot the benchrest guys?? Really?? I say B.S. What's a benchrest guy?
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Re: Rifle Cleaning for deer season- NO oil!!
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10/05/17 12:21 AM
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Your method will outshoot the benchrest guys?? Really?? I say B.S. Way to go. Throw in one tiny little niche of rifle shooting, which has zero to do with hunting rifles. I've got a rifle next to me right now that has not been cleaned in 160 rounds. I shot it on Monday, and that was cold bore, on an 8" plate at 800 yards. I damn sure don't do what bench resters do, but I can do that. Call BS all you want, but there's a very short list of guys I'd want next to me in a gunfight, and Chad is one of them.
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Re: Rifle Cleaning for deer season- NO oil!!
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10/11/17 02:29 PM
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Bench rest shooters have their guns sighted in for their cold clean bore shot.. If they shoot a second shot, it will hit in a slightly different place and cause them the match. Two totally different disciplines of shooting. As long as my rifle shoots sub MOA I'm good. I Regularly shoot out to 1500 yards, but I wont win any bench rest competitions..
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Re: Rifle Cleaning for deer season- NO oil!!
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And who the heck deer hunts, which is what this thread is about, with a bench rest rifle? I alternated last year between two of my long range rifles and it was such a beat down wagging those things through the woods that I went out and bought a new dedicated hunting rifle for this year. Well, that and the fact that I just wanted a new one...
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Re: Rifle Cleaning for deer season- NO oil!!
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My two main hunting rifles shoot to the same place inside of 300 if freshly cleaned or not, but I still am reluctant to clean the bore during the season. Only one time I can remember cleaning the bore was on a rainy day in Louisiana, when my rifle strap broke and the rifle landed barrel down and went 8 or 10 inches into the mud. That took some cleaning.
There's just nothing that makes me happier than a great shooting rifle (well, beer, Wimmin and a few other things maybe). Was hunting yesterday morning with that Tikka 260 that Chad had put together for me. Saw a coyote at about 175 yards, but couldn't get the gun up fast enough. But I knew where he had to cross to get to where he was going, so I set up the rifle and watched through the scope, safety off and finger in position. What I didn't expect was that the low spot he was in would mostly hide his body, but he stopped and raised his head. I had to shoot through the net wire fence and really really close to a fence post and hit him in the head, but I drilled him. I love that rifle. Not cleaning it till January. Thanks, Chad!
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Re: Rifle Cleaning for deer season- NO oil!!
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Re: Rifle Cleaning for deer season- NO oil!!
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Yeah I keep my TC Renegade Muzzleloader seasoned and it's dead on. I pretty much follow the same routine with my hunting firearms and use scentless oil since I was able to find another kit of the stuff. All the shots where I hunt are under 150 yards and sometimes the deer get very close to my blind. I had a buck scratching itself on the side of my 5ft tower last Wednesday but he wasn't a shooter. Have a great season everybody!
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Re: Rifle Cleaning for deer season- NO oil!!
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Re: Rifle Cleaning for deer season- NO oil!!
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