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 Re: .223 Hornady Whitetail
[Re: Gravytrain]
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04/10/13 04:43 PM
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Minotphil
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listed as a rapid expansion bullet. Not my first choice.
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Re: .223 Hornady Whitetail
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04/10/13 05:31 PM
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kmon11
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listed as a rapid expansion bullet. Not my first choice. If it is the old Hornady 60gr Spire Point stay away from it on anything bigger than a Coyote. Tried them years ago in a 22-250 not even fit for neck shots on a doe and will blowup on a shoulder shot and not enter the boiler room. Been there done that never again. If wanting to use a 22 on deer please use a bullet designed for it like the 60gr partition, 62 or 75 gr Swift Sirocco's or even a Barnes TSX
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Re: .223 Hornady Whitetail
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04/11/13 12:24 AM
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If you want to use a 223 and your gun will shoot it the 70 barnes tsx worked well for me on a medium size doe at 125 yards and a hog abou the same distance/weight.
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Re: .223 Hornady Whitetail
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05/10/13 01:46 PM
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I got some 62gr Remington Hog Hammer. Can't wait to give them a try.
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Re: .223 Hornady Whitetail
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05/10/13 03:38 PM
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If your taking anything but neck shots with most standard twisted .224's your setting up yourself for failure. Ill shoot quite a bit of game with .224's but they are fast twist high velo wildcats like the 22-6 ai and 220 swift ai shooting 70 gr+ pills that arent designed for vamint or match use. I've dropped a bull Nilgai with a perfectly placed neck shot at 175yds-180 yds with that 22-6 ai but was shooting a swift sirocco. Ill shoot does with 69 Smk's and 75 amax's out of my ar when culling, but shot placement is critical. I've past on a number of animals because I couldn't get shot placement where I wanted.
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Re: .223 Hornady Whitetail
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05/10/13 04:20 PM
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If your taking anything but neck shots with most standard twisted .224's your setting up yourself for failure. Ill shoot quite a bit of game with .224's but they are fast twist high velo wildcats like the 22-6 ai and 220 swift ai shooting 70 gr+ pills that arent designed for vamint or match use. I've dropped a bull Nilgai with a perfectly placed neck shot at 175yds-180 yds with that 22-6 ai but was shooting a swift sirocco. Ill shoot does with 69 Smk's and 75 amax's out of my ar when culling, but shot placement is critical. I've past on a number of animals because I couldn't get shot placement where I wanted. I pretty much feel the same way, but a standard twist 223 will shoot partitions just fine and I have yet to find a texas deer they wont kill with either neck head shoulder or behind the shoulder shot with good placement.
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Re: .223 Hornady Whitetail
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05/10/13 07:34 PM
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Interbond or GMX in .224 would be cool. Especially in a 220 swift or 22-250.
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Re: .223 Hornady Whitetail
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05/15/13 10:45 PM
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Just for fun. Here's a 70gn barnes TSX after passing full length through a Sow and lodging in the rare leg. (Right shoulder to left rear leg.) 
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Re: .223 Hornady Whitetail
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05/27/13 03:56 AM
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Slow Drifter
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I'm sitting here with my 2013 Hornady catalog in my lap (it's May already so it's probably obsolete) and at just a quick scan the only 60-grain .223/.224 bullets I see are the NTX (spire point, I think) and V-Max. The NTX is touted as a "Traditional Varmint Bullet," and the V-Max page is touting is "dramatic fragmentation." Neither of these seem to me to belong in a box with "Whitetail" on it, or maybe I'm missing something.
edited to add "60 grain." They do have more than just these two .223/.224 bullets.
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Re: .223 Hornady Whitetail
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05/27/13 04:02 AM
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Slow Drifter
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I've never used any of these on game, but just reading their catalog I wonder why they didn't go with the 70g GMX? The way they explain it,(I know), it sounds like a much more viable round for the purpose.
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Re: .223 Hornady Whitetail
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05/27/13 09:16 PM
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That GMX looks decent to me, I'd try it as out to where the speed is over 2200 on impact.
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Re: .223 Hornady Whitetail
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05/27/13 09:41 PM
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Dave Davidson
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I've taken a lot of deer with my Grandsons 222. It was mine before I gave it to him. I've used both Hornady and Sierra 55gr. I've lost one deer during that time but it was my fault, not the bullets.
But, I don't consider myself an expert. And, I don't take the shot at over 150 yards.
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Re: .223 Hornady Whitetail
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12/27/14 01:27 PM
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I have had great luck with interlocks in my243 and. 270 dint know in. 223
NRA all the way god guns and guts made us free , i want all three
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Re: .223 Hornady Whitetail
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12/27/14 02:49 PM
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.223 and "whitetail" is basically an oxymoron anyway.
But, who cares? The .223 a "thing" now and an ammo company's job is to sell ammo.
If you just have to shoot deer with a .223 the Nosler Partition, TSX, or other similarly constructed bullet is the way to go. As others have said.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: .223 Hornady Whitetail
[Re: Newt1234]
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12/27/14 03:19 PM
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I have used the interbond bullet in a box of hornady custom .257 Roberts 117gr loads with good results. I know the 117 is a lot more than the 60 gr .223. I reload for the 257 using sierras that are very accurate. With that being said I would still prefer a nosler partition for the .223.
Who makes a .223 factory load using a nosler partition's?
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Re: .223 Hornady Whitetail
[Re: redchevy]
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12/27/14 04:07 PM
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blackcoal
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I will correct myself, I do like 55 grain v-max in my 223 for plinking/varmeting, but thats it.
Hornady bullets suck in my opinion. Waiting to hear the responses.
The Greatest Enemy of knowledge is not ignorance,
it is the illusion of knowledge.--Stephen Hawking
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Re: .223 Hornady Whitetail
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12/27/14 04:11 PM
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dee
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I will correct myself, I do like 55 grain v-max in my 223 for plinking/varmeting, but thats it.
Hornady bullets suck in my opinion. Waiting to hear the responses. I'm partial to their Amax and XTP line but that's about it. I've had such good luck with Nosler hunting bullets I usually don't deviate from them.
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Re: .223 Hornady Whitetail
[Re: Slow Drifter]
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12/27/14 04:25 PM
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I've never used any of these on game, but just reading their catalog I wonder why they didn't go with the 70g GMX? The way they explain it,(I know), it sounds like a much more viable round for the purpose. 70gr isn't going to shoot well out of many of the .223s out there due to the slow twist rates.
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Re: .223 Hornady Whitetail
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12/27/14 09:37 PM
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aggie-01
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Thanks. I will keep an eye for some!
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