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#3009618 - 02/12/12 10:51 PM How well do silencers work
stevenj Offline
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I was was debating on a silencer for my ar and was wondering if you shoot into a group of hogs do they scatter or hang around


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#3010142 - 02/13/12 09:07 AM Re: How well do silencers work [Re: stevenj]
mikey1313 Offline
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well since nobody is going to grab this one i will. First its not a silencer, they are illegal. I believe what u are going for is a suppressor. if u shoot a hog with a sup. the others may not hear the shot but when it squeals they will most likely scatter. so depending on if u want meat or just to plow down some hogs it may or may not work.

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#3010206 - 02/13/12 09:29 AM Re: How well do silencers work [Re: mikey1313]
FIREDAVIS Offline
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A suppressor and a silencer are the samething. I have one for my AR and it isnt "hollywood quiet" they typically drop a 223 down to around the sound of a .22 or less. Some of the times the hogs cant tell where the shot came from and they will run straight at you giving you more shot oppurtunities. It does seem to make them not run as far after you shoot. I shot one out of a big group and they ran off but only 50 yards and then I stalked up and got two more out of the same group. I think it is worth it personally. Check out Advanced Armarment that is the brand I went with.


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#3010220 - 02/13/12 09:35 AM Re: How well do silencers work [Re: FIREDAVIS]
mikey1313 Offline
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I am aware that they are the same thing but wording is the key. mainly because silencers are illegal

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#3010239 - 02/13/12 09:41 AM Re: How well do silencers work [Re: mikey1313]
Capt. Andrew Offline
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Originally Posted By: mikey likes it
I am aware that they are the same thing but wording is the key. mainly because silencers are illegal

now where did you get that from? Nothing is illegal... with some wait and alot of money you can have anything you want

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#3010241 - 02/13/12 09:42 AM Re: How well do silencers work [Re: FIREDAVIS]
GriffGruff78 Offline
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Registered: 11/29/11
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Originally Posted By: FIREDAVIS
A suppressor and a silencer are the samething. I have one for my AR and it isnt "hollywood quiet" they typically drop a 223 down to around the sound of a .22 or less. Some of the times the hogs cant tell where the shot came from and they will run straight at you giving you more shot oppurtunities. It does seem to make them not run as far after you shoot. I shot one out of a big group and they ran off but only 50 yards and then I stalked up and got two more out of the same group. I think it is worth it personally. Check out Advanced Armarment that is the brand I went with.


I stalk unsuppressed. Very close to 100% of my successful stalks result in hanging ONE pig. My game warden stalks with a suppressed 5.56 carbine length. Granted, he does some spray n' pray and doesn't worry much about harvesting the pigs, but he often kills ALL the adults out of a sounder. It will not let you pick 'em off one by one without disturbing the pigs, but the rifle report gives the pigs something to run away from. The bullet crack doesn't seem to do that to the same extent.

I think Hiram Maxim was the first to patent a dry, baffle style suppressor, intended for use with his machine gun. He called it a silencer. They are exactly the same and the terminology can be used interchangeably; neither is more correct (or more legal) than the other.



Edited by GriffGruff78 (02/13/12 09:44 AM)

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#3010258 - 02/13/12 09:45 AM Re: How well do silencers work [Re: mikey1313]
FIREDAVIS Offline
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Registered: 09/07/08
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Loc: Kingwood/Houston
http://www.aaccanu.com/

Look at what one of the largest company calls their product.


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#3010299 - 02/13/12 09:56 AM Re: How well do silencers work [Re: mikey1313]
Dragonuv Offline


Registered: 01/31/09
Posts: 3879
Loc: Abilene, TX USA
Originally Posted By: mikey likes it
I am aware that they are the same thing but wording is the key. mainly because silencers are illegal


That is incorrect, because, as you stated, they are the same thing. The reason they are not called "silencers", is because they do not silence the shot, they only suppress it...hence the name "suppressor". You can call it whatever you want. The legality of it isn't in it's name.
I bought mine from a cop who owns a gunshop and he calls them silencers all day long.




Edited by Dragonuv (02/13/12 10:00 AM)
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#3010348 - 02/13/12 10:10 AM Re: How well do silencers work [Re: mikey1313]
ZombieGun Offline
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Registered: 01/21/11
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Loc: Forney, TX
Originally Posted By: mikey likes it
well since nobody is going to grab this one i will. First its not a silencer, they are illegal. I believe what u are going for is a suppressor. if u shoot a hog with a sup. the others may not hear the shot but when it squeals they will most likely scatter. so depending on if u want meat or just to plow down some hogs it may or may not work.


No need to get all technical. We know what he means. People call it a "can" too. Are "cans" illegal to own as well???

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#3010388 - 02/13/12 10:24 AM Re: How well do silencers work [Re: ZombieGun]
Dragonuv Offline


Registered: 01/31/09
Posts: 3879
Loc: Abilene, TX USA
Originally Posted By: bigatex
Originally Posted By: mikey likes it
well since nobody is going to grab this one i will. First its not a silencer, they are illegal. I believe what u are going for is a suppressor. if u shoot a hog with a sup. the others may not hear the shot but when it squeals they will most likely scatter. so depending on if u want meat or just to plow down some hogs it may or may not work.


Are "cans" illegal to own as well???


Not yet, but then again the liberals haven't targeted them yet either. lol

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#3010468 - 02/13/12 10:52 AM Re: How well do silencers work [Re: Dragonuv]
ZombieGun Offline
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Registered: 01/21/11
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Originally Posted By: Dragonuv
Originally Posted By: bigatex
Originally Posted By: mikey likes it
well since nobody is going to grab this one i will. First its not a silencer, they are illegal. I believe what u are going for is a suppressor. if u shoot a hog with a sup. the others may not hear the shot but when it squeals they will most likely scatter. so depending on if u want meat or just to plow down some hogs it may or may not work.


Are "cans" illegal to own as well???


Not yet, but then again the liberals haven't targeted them yet either. lol


I was being sarcastic by the way, not literal.

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#3010479 - 02/13/12 10:57 AM Re: How well do silencers work [Re: Dragonuv]
mikey1313 Offline
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ok let me restate my original, silencers arent illegal but are a pain in the [censored] to get and req. a signature from a chief officer, also in depth background check, fingerprint and a four month waiting period. I didnt know my post was going to be scrutinized so harshly. In conclusion if you havent been through all the proper channels and you are caought with one it is federal time you will be doing, otherwise legal MY BAD.

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#3010607 - 02/13/12 11:43 AM Re: How well do silencers work [Re: mikey1313]
stxhunter Offline
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Registered: 03/04/08
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It quiets my 308 down to unsuppressed 22lr levels, but the sonic crack is still pretty loud. When I use this same can with subsonic 300 blk rounds its as quiet as my pellet gun! Does this mean when I shoot the animals don't notice? NO!!! The impact of the bullet striking it's target is actually fairly loud and disturbs most of the nearby animals. Also, it seems like pigs can't tell where the shot is coming from and sometimes run towards my location instead of away.

Suppressors are not really difficult to own, despite what others may say. If you can own a firearm, you can legally own a suppressor. Of course you can go the traditional law enforcement route and do the fingerprinting etc to acquire your suppressor. If you don't want to go that way you can also go the trust route, which is virtually painless. True it does take anywhere from 4-6 months and a $200 tax stamp before you can take possession of your new toy, but it's really not that bad. Just remember that a suppressor is a lifetime purchase, buy what you can afford (not necessarily the most expensive, but I would tend to stay away from some of the cheaper ones as well).

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#3010754 - 02/13/12 12:38 PM Re: How well do silencers work [Re: stxhunter]
Dragonuv Offline


Registered: 01/31/09
Posts: 3879
Loc: Abilene, TX USA
Originally Posted By: stxhunter
Suppressors are not really difficult to own, despite what others may say. If you can own a firearm, you can legally own a suppressor. Of course you can go the traditional law enforcement route and do the fingerprinting etc to acquire your suppressor. If you don't want to go that way you can also go the trust route, which is virtually painless. True it does take anywhere from 4-6 months and a $200 tax stamp before you can take possession of your new toy, but it's really not that bad. Just remember that a suppressor is a lifetime purchase, buy what you can afford (not necessarily the most expensive, but I would tend to stay away from some of the cheaper ones as well).
I went the trust route and paid $50 for the trust paperwork. The key is to not find a lawyer to do it, but find a gun dealer who has the computer program and let them do the trust. It saved me $450, a lawyer would have been $500. And contrary to popular belief, you can use it on any gun of the same caliber. I have 3 guns I use mine on and interchange it quite often.

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#3010838 - 02/13/12 01:13 PM Re: How well do silencers work [Re: Dragonuv]
jdw Offline


Registered: 04/12/09
Posts: 1223
Loc: Texas
so you cant legally resale a suppressor to an individual like a you can a gun? or buy a used one from an individual? has anybody used one on a 22-250? how much quiet is it?


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