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Just thought all you should know !!!!!!!!!!! #2952705 01/23/12 04:31 AM
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My father leased 1000 acre place on Finnis Rd, Young County last year. I went with him to look at it. The guy was a typical lease broker talking about forbes that were there(was none of what he read off a deer forbes book somewhere), travel lanes, an so on yada yada. Said that the land owner leased 2 days a year to dove hunters, an that there would not be anyone else out there. Running out of time, he leased it.

This was the biggest train wreck anyone could ever dream of having. First, he told us that we could hunt 500 acres that wasn't even on the lease. The 2 day bird hunt turned into the whole dove season with an average of 100 plus hunters a week out there. Ranch owners hired hands out there jacking with the cameras an blinds the whole season. We had more poachers running around than a riot in a LA street. Feeders stolen, blinds with windows broke out, poachers hunting in blinds. Just the worst nightmare. Told this lease broker many times of the trouble, to him saying it was out of his hands. Just a man with no balls.

Here is where I draw the line in the sand. Today, my dad was out there cleaning up his stuff to get off. Lease broker was showing around other guys to lease the place. These guys stopped an talked to my dad. The lease broker told them so many dang lies an totally misrepresented this place. Broker told these guys we took all these deer an that we got to fighting among ourselves an that we didn't have the money to release it. COMPLETE AN TOTAL LIE, NOT ONE THING HE SAID WAS TRUE. SO HERE IS YALLS WARNING.


DANNY COURVILLE
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COURVILLE LAND MANAGEMENT

HE IS NOW LEASEING UNDER THE NAME (TERSA BOULDER)


THIS GUY IS JUST A COMPLETE SNAKE IN THE GRASS!!!!!!!!!

DO NOT WANT ANYONE ELSE TO GO THROUGH THE HELL MY DAD DID !



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Re: Just thought all you should know !!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Lonnie Paul Walker Jr.] #2952723 01/23/12 04:39 AM
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Thanks for the warning



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Chances are real good that his(lease-broker) next conversation with anyone would have been a little painful.


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Thanks for posting.


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Thanks for the heads up.



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http://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/spo/2801817552.html


This one? Was just about to call them until I saw your post. THANK YOU!


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Re: Just thought all you should know !!!!!!!!!!! [Re: CRAnderson52] #2953694 01/23/12 05:39 PM
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There will be folks standing in line to lease it again.


Re: Just thought all you should know !!!!!!!!!!! [Re: CRAnderson52] #2953695 01/23/12 05:40 PM
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Thanks for sharing the info



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I was on the lease with Lonnie and his dad and uncles this year. If you care to look, I have a lot of information over on the "green screen". Long story short, 10 hunters, several of us were there every other weekend (me) and a couple every weekend. ONE doe shot - one. There are lots of hogs, a few turkeys. I was getting my stuff this weekend, I was spotlighting for hogs on the wheat - probably close to 300 acres of wheat in three different pastures - not one deer was seen, in about 2 hrs of driving around. There are at least a dozen locks on the gate - too much access and too much "family" around. Look elsewhere fellas and save yourself some grief.


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Thanks for the heads up.


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Thank you, we had left a message for them to call us back.
Thanks for the heads up!!!


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It's on lease hunter also. If someone is registered on that site it would be good to let mods know there



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Here is anoutherone to stay away form

http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/spo/2802428860.html



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Glad your dad got to warn that group but we all know someone else will get screwed next season.



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Re: Just thought all you should know !!!!!!!!!!! [Re: passthru] #2954953 01/24/12 01:30 AM
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Correction he is running the ad under the name Theresa Muller.



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I probably wont be very popular after this, but here goes... I would like to start by saying that I am not a lease broker, but have used them in the past w/ mixed results. I will say that it is totally unacceptable to be lied to. But there are things done by the landowner, on these leases, that the lease broker is not made aware of and therefore cannot control. What we have to understand is that some of these are working ranches w/ oil & gas wells etc.. The landowner has an agenda. The lease broker can not tell the landowner who to hire, stop the poaching, stealing, vandalism etc.. We have a signed agreement, giving us the hunting rights, which gives us all we need to call the law etc.. So, in a way, the lease brokers hands can get tied. As far as deer count goes, I will drive and walk the property for as long as needed to see deer signs for myself. It the lease broker can not understand that, then I do not sign or pay and move on. Not being unsensitive to yalls situation, because it is unfortunate. Sounds like yall are doing the right thing by moving on. Wish yall the BEST of luck on the new place that yall find!!!



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300 understand where your coming from an yes there is a gray area. This guy just totally misrepresents the property while showing it, and that is where we all should draw a line in the sand. Right is Right, an Wrong is Wrong! Thanks for thoughts !



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Where is this green screen I keep hearing about.


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Bump for the good guys, hope this guys is exposed to the world for what he sounds like, a crook!


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On the same agenda, watch out for a guy named Joe Slater. He sub-leases all over. Lies thru his teeth, tells you whatever he thinks you want to hear, takes your money and leaves you hung out to dry. Ask me how me and my friends know this. Lets just say me, my friends and some other of his hunters we met got a gold mine. He got all the gold and we all got the shaft.


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Originally Posted By: hookemhorns
It's on lease hunter also. If someone is registered on that site it would be good to let mods know there


Tell me what county and I will post the listing.


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It's in the first sentence of the thread...


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Location: This 1,000 acre Whitetail Deer lease is situated in Young County, Texas.

Closest City: Bryson (0 miles away)

Zip Code:?

Lease Cost: $15,000.00 per year

Guests: Guests are allowed.
A total of 1 guest are permitted per gun.

Hunters: 10 hunters are permitted for this lease.

Children: Children are allowed.
Features:
» Close to Town

» Camping Onsite

» Lodging Onsite

» Plowed Fields

» Brush

» Trees

» Game Managed

» Electricity

» Crops

» Tanks

» Rivers / Streams

Weapons:
» Archery

» Rifles

» Shotguns

» Pistol

» Muzzleloader

Game:

Primary Game: Whitetail Deer
Other Game:
» Whitetail Deer

» Turkey

» Dove

» Duck

» All small game

» Rabbits

» Squirrel

» Hog

» Predators

» Exotics

» Varmints


Owner Description:

1000ac in Bryson lots of game.Many tanks 2 wheat fields.

This ad was added Jan 15, 2012, last updated Jan 16, 2012, and expires Feb 14, 2012.

Lease Owner Contact Information
Lease Owner Name: Theresa Muller

Location: flower mound, TX 75028
Contact Information:
Phone: 214-240-4475
Alt. Phone: 214-240-4475
Email: d.courville@hotmail.com



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