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What's the #1 cause of member grumbling on your lease? #2925569 01/13/12 02:52 AM
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Spend enough time around here and you'll soon learn that hunter conflict on hunting leases is fairly common. Fortunately, our lease is well managed and our members are all professionals who get along quite well. Still, like any group of men, we sometimes have "issues" that come up.

Without question, the issue that comes up on our lease most often are guys who complain when they don't see as many deer as they should, or they don't see the quality deer they expect. And all too often, they are the ones who don't put in the time and effort that other members do to maintain their feeders, plant a good food plot, or spend time during the off season to look for a new spot to move their stand.



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Re: What's the #1 cause of member grumbling on your lease? [Re: Texas Dan] #2925616 01/13/12 03:01 AM
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Having a guest shoot off of their tags. Have a lease member that brings his wife every weekend and she hunts every weekend. They feel like they paid their money and she can hunt too.
Rules are very clear. No guests until after Thanksgiving weekend, and guests hunt off of your tag.
Lease manager is his dad and he is completely tired of it. It stops this year.
He is also the 1st one to point out to another guest that they hunt off a lease members tag.
Why does there have to be 1 person no mater where you are that is an absolute idiot!



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Re: What's the #1 cause of member grumbling on your lease? [Re: redriverpigger] #2925641 01/13/12 03:05 AM
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People not doing doing their part when it comes to feeding, its in our rules that you must feed protein, and we still have people that dont.



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Re: What's the #1 cause of member grumbling on your lease? [Re: Stickchunker] #2925875 01/13/12 03:51 AM
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Re: What's the #1 cause of member grumbling on your lease? [Re: Seadog] #2926311 01/13/12 12:34 PM
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I'm lucky to have quality lease members. We all try to pitch in for the work and share the expenses. Our issues are not with each other, but rather with:

a) the guy who leases the cattle rights. He likes to show up at 7:45 am and 5 pm and lay on the horn like a wild man.

b) the neighbors. 2 of 4 neighbors are part of the WMA, the other 2 shoot everything that walks. We lose many of our 3.5 YO deer to them.


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On my last lease it was the landowner and his shenanigans. On my current lease it's Freddy the Freeloader.



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Re: What's the #1 cause of member grumbling on your lease? [Re: Texas Dan] #2926575 01/13/12 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted By: Texas Dan
Without question, the issue that comes up on our lease most often are guys who complain when they don't see as many deer as they should, or they don't see the quality deer they expect. And all too often, they are the ones who don't put in the time and effort that other members do to maintain their feeders, plant a good food plot, or spend time during the off season to look for a new spot to move their stand.


We have one of these guys, won't be here next year....

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Re: What's the #1 cause of member grumbling on your lease? [Re: TreeBass] #2926656 01/13/12 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted By: redriverpigger
Having a guest shoot off of their tags. Have a lease member that brings his wife every weekend and she hunts every weekend. They feel like they paid their money and she can hunt too.
Rules are very clear. No guests until after Thanksgiving weekend, and guests hunt off of your tag.
Lease manager is his dad and he is completely tired of it. It stops this year.
He is also the 1st one to point out to another guest that they hunt off a lease members tag.
Why does there have to be 1 person no mater where you are that is an absolute idiot!


Glad this was brought up. How about the guy that says, "I paid for 5 deer, so it shouldn't matter who I bring to kill them as long as they sit in my stand." wtf


Re: What's the #1 cause of member grumbling on your lease? [Re: Armalite260] #2926667 01/13/12 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted By: BowTech82ndAB
Originally Posted By: redriverpigger
Having a guest shoot off of their tags. Have a lease member that brings his wife every weekend and she hunts every weekend. They feel like they paid their money and she can hunt too.
Rules are very clear. No guests until after Thanksgiving weekend, and guests hunt off of your tag.
Lease manager is his dad and he is completely tired of it. It stops this year.
He is also the 1st one to point out to another guest that they hunt off a lease members tag.
Why does there have to be 1 person no mater where you are that is an absolute idiot!


Glad this was brought up. How about the guy that says, "I paid for 5 deer, so it shouldn't matter who I bring to kill them as long as they sit in my stand." wtf


If it's a member of the immediate family, or even a single guest, I don't feel most people care. It's the guy who wants to bring as many different guests as he wants that creates a problem.

I feel safe in saying the issue points to why many leases charge "per gun".



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We hunt our own place now, me dad and brother and anyone else we invite, the list is short and we have had zero issues.

On our old lease problems we had:
-no agrement to manage so some folks shot what they wanted, which was fine but my group dad and bro wanted to manage and couldnt so we left
-shooting imature bucks
-refusal to shoot does, would shoot 1.5-2.5 yo bucks the last weekend and still refuse to shoot a doe
-a lease member with no life that went every weekend and if you didnt he would gripe you didnt go enough or pitch in(I have more things to do)
-Goats
-cows
-people not getting big enough deer and then they shoot the 1.5yo 6pt the last weekend.

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Re: What's the #1 cause of member grumbling on your lease? [Re: Texas Dan] #2926681 01/13/12 02:58 PM
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Too many stands when you can only hunt one at a time. And people not maintaining them throughout the year and then want to hunt somebody elses stand.

Hadn't had these problems in years but they were the main ones back in the day.


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Originally Posted By: Texas Dan
Originally Posted By: BowTech82ndAB
Originally Posted By: redriverpigger
Having a guest shoot off of their tags. Have a lease member that brings his wife every weekend and she hunts every weekend. They feel like they paid their money and she can hunt too.
Rules are very clear. No guests until after Thanksgiving weekend, and guests hunt off of your tag.
Lease manager is his dad and he is completely tired of it. It stops this year.
He is also the 1st one to point out to another guest that they hunt off a lease members tag.
Why does there have to be 1 person no mater where you are that is an absolute idiot!


Glad this was brought up. How about the guy that says, "I paid for 5 deer, so it shouldn't matter who I bring to kill them as long as they sit in my stand." wtf


If it's a member of the immediate family, or even a single guest, I don't feel most people care. It's the guy who wants to bring as many different guests as he wants that creates a problem.

I feel safe in saying the issue points to why many leases charge "per gun".


That's what he was doing.. Showing up with 2 or more friends at a time.. Then would end up asking if one of his friends could sit in another member's stand.. Cracked me up... Need less to say he and the owner got sidways!


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Were pretty lucky with guest thing. All of us have the same group of friends for the most part so we never have to many coming out.

We do have a problem with people always having a problem with other people like little girls. "He is dirty" or "He drinks to much" or some kind of crap like that. But in the end were still friends so I don't guess it really matters!



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Jealousy of some one else's success! I have seen this be the core of many peoples complaints. Especially if one hunter or group of hunters is consistantly more successful.


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Hey man i checked your feeder for you and the time was off and it needed a bag of corn so i got you all fixed up so when you get here in a couple of hours your ready to hunt, it wasnt empty but it is full now.
Has that ever happened to anyone, we got someone who loves to check eveyones stuff,


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Originally Posted By: Milanotx
Hey man i checked your feeder for you and the time was off and it needed a bag of corn so i got you all fixed up so when you get here in a couple of hours your ready to hunt, it wasnt empty but it is full now.
Has that ever happened to anyone, we got someone who loves to check eveyones stuff,


OH HEll yeah.. Had one that would say, I went by your stand just to look in side and make sure everything is OK?? I can't understand why some people just can't help themselves to do that.


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#1 cause of member grumbling: morons and selfish idiots

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Originally Posted By: BowTech82ndAB
Originally Posted By: Milanotx
Hey man i checked your feeder for you and the time was off and it needed a bag of corn so i got you all fixed up so when you get here in a couple of hours your ready to hunt, it wasnt empty but it is full now.
Has that ever happened to anyone, we got someone who loves to check eveyones stuff,


OH HEll yeah.. Had one that would say, I went by your stand just to look in side and make sure everything is OK?? I can't understand why some people just can't help themselves to do that.


I suspect people messing with another member's game camera is becoming more common problem as well. What better way to find out what deer might be coming to another member's feeder. Just ride around the lease and use your pocket LCD to view the photos on any camera you want.




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Worse, we had neighbors checking our cams then hunting when we weren't there. All cams now have locks, and a couple "spy" cams have been placed in hidden locations.


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