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#2910897 - 01/08/12 06:28 PM What is the overall cheapest option for wireless game cam setups?
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I had seen a Sprint service Scout Cam setup but from what i recall the monthly cost was too much.

https://www.smartscouter.com/ssPurchaseWirelessPlan.aspx

This product came out a couple of years ago and I am hoping there is competition that is much cheaper.

OR

If someone wants to explain how they setup IP video cameras while they are on the hunting property this might be helpful as well. It would allow for hunting of one stand while monitoring of another simulateneously.

Thx,

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#2912156 - 01/09/12 07:53 AM Re: What is the overall cheapest option for wireless game cam setups? [Re: HuntTXhogs]
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I use wireless IP video cameras powered by a 6v golf cart battery which runs them for about 7 days between charges - those IR LEDS that come on at night suck down the power.
I mount the camera on an aluminum tube which slides over a tpost.
The tube is 12' long.
I mount the camera at 8' and the beam antenna on top at 12' for maximum range.
I have a wireless router loaded with DDWRT software that uses two antennas- one short one on the router itself (for inside the house wireless service) and the second antenna(long range) is a 2' omni directional dipole mounted outside on a 25' antenna mast.
The wireless router is setup as a wireless hotspot and uses both antennas simultaneously.
With this combination, if I get the beam on the camera pole aimed directly at the dipole with clear line of sight, I can get right at 1/2 mile range.
The hotspot setup with external antenna has about 1000 foot range to a laptop with standard wireless card.
If I use an external wireless USB amp with beam antenna, it will also communicate back to the hotspot at about 1/2 mile range.

I don't set in the boxblind with a laptop but sit in my living room and watch the IP cameras on one screen while I use the computer on the other one. I'm watching 7 does at one of my feeders while I am typing this!

The router is secured to keep others from watching my game cameras.

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#2912235 - 01/09/12 08:16 AM Re: What is the overall cheapest option for wireless game cam setups? [Re: Vern1]
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Wow, I feel inept. Sounds like an awesome set up but my feeders are 272 miles away from my house.

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#2913232 - 01/09/12 12:43 PM Re: What is the overall cheapest option for wireless game cam setups? [Re: Vern1]
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Originally Posted By: Vern1
I use wireless IP video cameras powered by a 6v golf cart battery which runs them for about 7 days between charges - those IR LEDS that come on at night suck down the power.
I mount the camera on an aluminum tube which slides over a tpost.
The tube is 12' long.
I mount the camera at 8' and the beam antenna on top at 12' for maximum range.
I have a wireless router loaded with DDWRT software that uses two antennas- one short one on the router itself (for inside the house wireless service) and the second antenna(long range) is a 2' omni directional dipole mounted outside on a 25' antenna mast.
The wireless router is setup as a wireless hotspot and uses both antennas simultaneously.
With this combination, if I get the beam on the camera pole aimed directly at the dipole with clear line of sight, I can get right at 1/2 mile range.
The hotspot setup with external antenna has about 1000 foot range to a laptop with standard wireless card.
If I use an external wireless USB amp with beam antenna, it will also communicate back to the hotspot at about 1/2 mile range.

I don't set in the boxblind with a laptop but sit in my living room and watch the IP cameras on one screen while I use the computer on the other one. I'm watching 7 does at one of my feeders while I am typing this!

The router is secured to keep others from watching my game cameras.


Ok, I am completely lost. I kinda understand what you are describing. My feeder is less than a 1/2 mile away. If I were wanting to pursue this what kind of cost would one be looking at?

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#2913336 - 01/09/12 01:05 PM Re: What is the overall cheapest option for wireless game cam setups? [Re: East]
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Ive wanted to set up something like this. My feeder is around 1000-1500yards from my house. House is further up on a hill and I already have a 50ft antenna tower up at the house for internet.

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#2913996 - 01/09/12 03:40 PM Re: What is the overall cheapest option for wireless game cam setups? [Re: Nathan at Fork]
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Vern1 - Good S%it Man, what is the approximate cost of the antennas and gear. I take it you pay a straight up data fee for internet service with a kicker for the "aircard" or router to setup the hotspot.

For those not following, what he is doing is essentially making his internet or cell phone plan a mobile hotspot, this 4G LTE stuff that Verizon is selling right now is a "router" or small box that you can feed internet to other devices while on the go.

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/explore/?page=mobile-hotspots

Then once you have established the IP camera to router connection you have another laptop with a wifi card in it (just like at home) borrow the kids laptop for the weekend, and you tap into the hotspot you created at the lease.

In 5 years EVERYONE will have this setup on their hunting property.

For those of you hunting on lots of acreage, lets just say more than a 1/3 or 1/2 mile max from deer camp or house, you are either going to be spending more $$$ for a setup like Vern is talking about or you are just going to be SOL for a few more years until technology bridges the gaps.

Photos if you got em Vern, this is exactly what I am asking about.

It beats the cellular service game cams because IP cameras are live video and you don't have to pay a monthly subscription fee or usage fee for the service. Alot of guys are already paying monthly cellphone bills or house internet bills and all that is needed additional is the "on the go" router to tap into the service.

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#2915017 - 01/09/12 07:29 PM Re: What is the overall cheapest option for wireless game cam setups? [Re: HuntTXhogs]
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Sorry for going "out there"....spent 30 years working corp IT for DOD contractor...

You don't need to set up a wireless hotspot to do it.
I have a wireless internet service but you don't need internet service to implement this. You can just setup the wireless router to talk to your cameras and PCs. The PC will need to be hardwired to the router to set it and the cameras up.

For your house you will need:
A computer with wired network card and an ethernet cable.
A wireless router with two small removable antennas on back - I use a Linksys WRT54G - it will work just fine without any additional software - 50.00 or so on ebay.
An external antenna - I picked up a 2' 2.4Ghz one off ebay for 20.00 or so. It's a white fiberglass dipole about 24 inches long and about an inch in diameter and is omnidirectional.
Antenna cable/adapters to hook your antenna to your router - I don't remember off the top of my head the connectors, but 30' of cable and the adapter ran about 30.00 on ebay. I mounted it on a simple push up TV antenna pole - it's skinny and doesn't need any guy wires.

The camera is a standard wireless IP camera I bought off ebay for about 75.00. It is an outside rated camera with IR LEDs - can't see very far at night but does pretty well in moon light. It has lived outside thru rain and cold for 9 months so far.
It comes with an AC adapter and I just splice on some additional wire with alligator clips to hook to battery.
The antenna is a simple 2.4Ghz beam antenna with a 4' lead that connects directly into the back of the camera in place of the short rubber ducky one that came with the camera.
The camera runs on 5.5 volts but lives on a 6V golf cart battery just fine.

Once you setup the router, use an ethernet cable to the the camera to set it up and let it find an IP.

Each camera has built in web server that talks to your router.
You open up Firefox or Internet Exploder and type the IP address into the browser for each camera, hit enter and log into the camera. You can change brightness and contrast as well as passwords, etc. from the browser.

You can run multiple cameras and just open a different window for each with their unique IP address.

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#2917027 - 01/10/12 11:13 AM Re: What is the overall cheapest option for wireless game cam setups? [Re: Vern1]
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Wow. That's heavy, Vern...

If you are in the living room watching your feeders, how would you go about exporting that video to a remote computer? For example, one in a house or, I dunno, an office building about 50 miles from your property? Impractical?


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#2917086 - 01/10/12 11:35 AM Re: What is the overall cheapest option for wireless game cam setups? [Re: GriffGruff78]
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Vern, could you watch the video feed from a smartphone if you were connected wirelessly to the router? By just typing in the IP address in your smart phone browser?

I think I am going to try and work on setting up a system like you have going. Is there any way by chance you could post a few pics of the antennas and cameras you are running? Maybe the whole outdoors set-up? Thanks again!


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#2917274 - 01/10/12 12:29 PM Re: What is the overall cheapest option for wireless game cam setups? [Re: Tru_texan36]
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Vern -

Thanks for all the information !

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#3383211 - 07/16/12 06:48 PM Re: What is the overall cheapest option for wireless game cam setups? [Re: HuntTXhogs]
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Ck this out!!!!!!!!!!

How to Build a Wireless Trail Camera with a Live Video Stream | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_5772777_build-camera-live-video-stream.html#ixzz1z0jgigsz


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#6265235 - 04/18/16 11:30 AM Re: What is the overall cheapest option for wireless game cam setups? [Re: HuntTXhogs]
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any updates on technology that has changed in 4 years?

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#6265248 - 04/18/16 11:37 AM Re: What is the overall cheapest option for wireless game cam setups? [Re: HuntTXhogs]
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Vern's way will still work, but it's way easier to get a Covert 3G camera. There is currently a good thread going on cell cams.
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#6265253 - 04/18/16 11:39 AM Re: What is the overall cheapest option for wireless game cam setups? [Re: HuntTXhogs]
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mine don't have wires... just sd card
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#6267136 - 04/19/16 03:39 PM Re: What is the overall cheapest option for wireless game cam setups? [Re: HuntTXhogs]
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I have an HCO cell camera. My first one lasted 3 years before a flood claimed it and I liked it so much I bought another. The MB500 is about $350.00, built an ammo box with 3 batteries and three solar chargers, added a sim card to my AT&T plan for an extra $15.00 a month. Works great!

This was emailed to me yesterday.

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