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#284906 - 12/27/07 08:13 PM Lease Available - vs - People Looking For A Lease
Hopedale Offline
THF Trophy Hunter

Registered: 09/12/07
Posts: 5858
Loc: Central Texas
It appears there are more people in this area of the forum looking for a lease then there are leases available; so I'd like to pose a question to you folks. All of you seem to post, "I'm looking for a lease for 2 possibly 4 hunters, etc"

Would it not make sense for everyone to work together in find a lease everyone could join in on?

What I am thinking, is forming the club before you have the area to lease. Once you have the number of members, set a limit each member is willing to put up.

By getting a large group together, would it be possible to get an area that only large corporations compete for?

Does anyone know if this has been done before?

What are your thoughts?

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#284907 - 12/27/07 08:39 PM Re: Lease Available - vs - People Looking For A Lease [Re: Hopedale]
Crazyhorse Offline
THF Celebrity

Registered: 11/05/04
Posts: 16474
Loc: Azle, Texas
Your idea has merit to a point, and that point is not everybody wants the same thing in a lease, and not everyone can play nice together.

Go back and review all the threads about deer hunting, and you will notice that all of us have different ideas on what we want out of a lease.

Some folks want a lease to be archery only, some want size limits either in addition to or seperate from TP&W on their lease.

Some folks want to just be able to go out and fill every tag they have and are not worried about trying to manage the place.

Take my situation. I am looking for a place between 80 and 200 acres for 2 to 4 people. I don't want a place in any county with antler restrictions. I want a place where the land owner does not care what I shoot as long as it is legal.

I want to be able to take a guest if I want to and I expect that guest to use their tag and I do not want a place where I have to "burn" one of my tags if a guest shoots a deer.

I also want a place where any guest I bring can shoot any deer they see, not just a doe.

Yes, hunting clubs have been put together in the past and in some cases they have worked.

I just feel that the more people that are involved the more chance for problems to develope. JMO.


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#284908 - 12/28/07 06:58 AM Re: Lease Available - vs - People Looking For A Lease [Re: Crazyhorse]
BMowatt Offline
THF Trophy Hunter

Registered: 02/08/07
Posts: 7352
Loc: Bradenton Florida
I agree with Crazyhorse


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#284909 - 12/28/07 07:25 AM Re: Lease Available - vs - People Looking For A Lease [Re: BMowatt]
eskimodr Offline
Light Foot

Registered: 11/07/07
Posts: 37
Loc: Lake Jackson
While I agree with what's been said, you could still do the club if you made the rules prior to inviting members. Another item to consider; depending on where the land is located there might be either smaller land owners adjacent or even small towns adjacent to the lease. Will you give each member a specific compartment or allow first-come; first-serve for that particular day? That's just one of many questions people will be asking. Let me know what you decide to do.

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#284910 - 12/28/07 08:03 AM Re: Lease Available - vs - People Looking For A Lease [Re: eskimodr]
highlonesome1 Offline
THF Trophy Hunter

Registered: 10/02/07
Posts: 5231
Loc: Scleicher County
I think it is a good idea. If you can find enough like minded individuals.

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#284911 - 12/28/07 09:23 AM Re: Lease Available - vs - People Looking For A Lease [Re: highlonesome1]
7mag Offline
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Registered: 01/21/06
Posts: 20406
Loc: West Texas
Quote:

I think it is a good idea. If you can find enough like minded individuals.




That is where it becomes a pain in the cazoo

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#284912 - 12/28/07 09:46 AM Re: Lease Available - vs - People Looking For A Lease [Re: 7mag]
Hopedale Offline
THF Trophy Hunter

Registered: 09/12/07
Posts: 5858
Loc: Central Texas
Well, the lease I used to belong to had 33 members. The club was already formed with established rules, so if I wanted in, I had to agree to the rules. For the most part the rules were focused on safety, which was fine by me. About the only time I didn't like it was the year the club voted to ban putting corn out. Which I thought was dumb, and was changed the year later.

Anyway, I've never started one, and haven't started looking for a lease yet. But I do miss hunting with a group of folks with similar views.

You are right; you will never find one size fits all. However in this forum, I believe we could get several folks together to form a club.

I liked what I had before, with one exception. I hunted that lease for 3 years and only took one deer. It wasn't in Texas, but it was a nice set up.

We had approximately 2000 acres. Each member could have two perminate stands. Inside the tree line you couldn't set up within 100 yards of another hunter, and in an open field it was 200 yards of another hunter. If you had a mobile stand, ie climber or blind, you could go anywhere on the lease, as long as you didn't set up on someone. I will need to find my rule book to see what the actual distances where but from memory I believe they are correct.

In the three years I was there, the club officers had only one dispute on distance in an open field that needed to be measured. It was handled without commotion, because the guy that wanted to setup, asked for the measurement before he placed his perminate stand.

The lease was open year round, but its primary use was deer hunting, but I did manage a few turkey hunts on it.

As for methods of taking game, we had bow, black powder, and firearm of your choice.

You could put out deer feeders and food plots, but it wasn't required.

The first, and only deer I got, was off of a friends stand. It was a nice 105 lb doe, and I was proud of it. Sharing that moment with friends was great, which is what makes a lease something worth looking into for me.

The accommodations were nice. We had a loggers building as the camp. Half was for cold storage and deer cleaning. The other half included two bathrooms, kitchen, dinning\tv room, and sleeping quarters. To me, it was a 5 star hotel in the middle of the woods. Talk about being spoiled. I only had to drive 1hr 15 from the house to get out there. And for those with kids, they loved hanging out around the camp. And during the off season, there 4-wheel trails to ride and stock tanks to fish.

Right now my focus would be a place I could hunt all season long, with the method of my choice. And a place that I could go on all year long to scout or take my kids and expose them to the outdoors. Also looking to make new friends and enjoy the commerodery that comes with hunting.

Distance, well of course I'd love something close to home, but if the place has somewhere to stay, then driving 2 - 3 hours doesn't look to bad.

Questions, comments, and Opinions please.

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#284913 - 12/28/07 09:58 AM Re: Lease Available - vs - People Looking For A Lease [Re: Hopedale]
randtx Offline
Bird Dog

Registered: 02/01/07
Posts: 411
Loc: Katy, TX
Hopedale, that sounds great. If you find a place please let me know of any other openings. Thanks.


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#284914 - 12/28/07 10:05 AM Re: Lease Available - vs - People Looking For A Lease [Re: Hopedale]
chestnut Offline
Tracker

Registered: 09/10/06
Posts: 718
Loc: The Woodlands Township, Texas ...
I think it's a great idea.

Since I've been monitoring this forum, I've seen little get done in the way of hunters matched with leases. If you're a single hunter, you've got little chance of getting onto a lease by coming here.

There are a lot of variables. No one has even mentioned the drinking vs no-drinking divide.

Myself, I think you have to first decide how many deer of each sex can be taken off the land, consistently, each year and then divide that up by the number of members. A member could give or sell his right to a deer to another member. As for what Crazyhorse wants -- guests to take deer without it counting against a member's alotment -- that makes no sense to me. How would that possibly work?

What I'd like I don't think many would want:

1) No drinking on the property
2) Year round access but emphasis just on deer hunting
3) No baiting or food plots
4) Enough land so that the hunter could fill all his tags allowed in that county
5) Emphasis on portable stands or hunting from chairs
6) Not in an AR county and each shooter decides what he wants to shoot as long as it is within the bounds of the number allowed.



Edited by chestnut (12/28/07 10:07 AM)

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#284915 - 12/28/07 10:06 AM Re: Lease Available - vs - People Looking For A Lease [Re: randtx]
chestnut Offline
Tracker

Registered: 09/10/06
Posts: 718
Loc: The Woodlands Township, Texas ...
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Hopedale, that sounds great. If you find a place please let me know of any other openings. Thanks.




But that's the complete opposite of what he's trying to do. He wants people on board before land is found.


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#284916 - 12/28/07 10:06 AM Re: Lease Available - vs - People Looking For A Lease [Re: Hopedale]
7mag Offline
THF Celebrity

Registered: 01/21/06
Posts: 20406
Loc: West Texas
About 2 years ago i almost nosed dived into one of these type groups. The group was mainly out of the Houston area. There were 12 of them and they were looking for 2 additional spots. This lease was in Crockett County, near Ozona. They gave me the insight on the place and I met them at the lease, to look things over. The main guy was not there, but I had spoken with him numerous times, by phone. I asked him about bowhunting, muzzleloaders and such, more so if they were Ok with it. He stated no problems. This group did the lease kind of like a military type ranking order. From a commander, on down. My buddy and I were at the very bottom. The place was nice and looked like they took really good deer, in prior seasons. I had 2 deposits in hand, if we decided to go with it. I was then advised of our "chores" . My buddy and I would be responsible for painting and repairing the hunters house They advised me this was done this way with all new members. I asked what they did to help out the lease, they stated they had already done their share, when they came on years ago Anyhow this place was pretty run down, as far as the house. I asked the Lt about muzzleloaders and bowhunting. He advised me the man in charge was against it. Loaders were a fire hazard and the bowhunting left too many deer to flee and not be harvested(wounded). I wasn't into either at the time, my buddy was. I was also advised that there were 3 pastures we could place our feeders and blinds, the other places were taken. The Chief had also advised we could take a cull, and a trophy. I was advised by our chubby Lt. that since we were at the bottom of the pole, it would take a few seasons before we were eligable to harvest a cull. It seemed this pyrmid worked in there favor, as you can see why. All new guys get the shaft, and the older guys in the club feasted like Kings, breaking the new guys back. We didn't get on as one can imagine. The days of a handshake and word of mouth are gone. A lease or club agreement is needed to keep everyone in check, IMO.

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#284917 - 12/28/07 11:27 AM Re: Lease Available - vs - People Looking For A Lease [Re: 7mag]
taxidrmst_james Offline
Tracker

Registered: 09/11/07
Posts: 577
Loc: college station, texas
I would have laughed in his face as i was driving off which im sure you did 7mag..to many people have leases or are lease managers that dont want to do anything and leave the work to someone else ,,been on leases like that before


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#284918 - 12/28/07 11:48 AM Re: Lease Available - vs - People Looking For A Lease [Re: taxidrmst_james]
randtx Offline
Bird Dog

Registered: 02/01/07
Posts: 411
Loc: Katy, TX
"But that's the complete opposite of what he's trying to do. He wants people on board before land is found."

Kinda hard to "I'm on board without knowing the location and price don't ya think?


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#284919 - 12/28/07 11:55 AM Re: Lease Available - vs - People Looking For A Lease [Re: randtx]
7mag Offline
THF Celebrity

Registered: 01/21/06
Posts: 20406
Loc: West Texas
btw, my 2 "lease guys" that are currently with me, came right off this Forum. I didn't know them for squat. Took a chance..................the rest is history.

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#284920 - 12/28/07 06:27 PM Re: Lease Available - vs - People Looking For A Lease [Re: 7mag]
dbgsig Offline
Outdoorsman

Registered: 10/25/06
Posts: 60
Loc: Corinth
I have thought about doing the same thing. Everytime I find a good lease it is to costly for me and a few buddies. If I could find a few good people then we could afford a larger, more productive lease. I am in favor of deer management, so mature bucks and does would be my goal.

Keep me in mind if someone decides to follow thru on this idea. I prefer West Texas, for there deer size and numbers.


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