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#1600627 - 08/16/10 02:51 PM How many acres Game fence?
the rattler Offline


Registered: 01/30/09
Posts: 177
Loc: Dallas, TX
How much land should you have to game fence. I am really looking at the smaller end. What are the problems when you have a small place like 200 or 300 acres. What are the pros & cons?



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#1600630 - 08/16/10 02:53 PM Re: How much acreage to game fence? [Re: the rattler]
Justin T Offline
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Registered: 09/23/09
Posts: 6070
Loc: Austin
The smaller you get, the more like a zoo it becomes. What type of terrain it is will really help with the decision.


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#1600645 - 08/16/10 02:57 PM Re: How much acreage to game fence? [Re: Justin T]
the rattler Offline


Registered: 01/30/09
Posts: 177
Loc: Dallas, TX
It is very flat. I am thinking of game fencing 200 acres but I wonder about the bucks fighting, horns breaking since on small acreage there is not a whole lot of room to hide. I found one for sale insouth Texas & it was only a 100 acres. My buddy is raising deer & locally the feed stores say they can sell as many hunts as we could offer.

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#1600646 - 08/16/10 02:59 PM Re: How much acreage to game fence? [Re: the rattler]
txhunter24 Offline
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Registered: 09/25/08
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Loc: Runnels County
If it were me I would not HF a place under 1500 acres. but thats just me. otherwise you are actually ruining habitat. just my .02 cents though

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#1600671 - 08/16/10 03:05 PM Re: How much acreage to game fence? [Re: txhunter24]
Justin T Offline
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Registered: 09/23/09
Posts: 6070
Loc: Austin
If this is for a place to hunt, it is not my thing. I don't mind high fences, but less than 200 acres is not fair chase IMO. I wouldn't feel right unless the place was ~1000 acres in South Texas.


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#1600724 - 08/16/10 03:27 PM Re: How much acreage to game fence? [Re: Justin T]
Tye Offline
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200 acres equals 20 deer that the land could support depending on habitat,food plots,protein feeding etc.(could be more like 15 deer) You wouldn't want to carry more deer though with the use of the Supplemental feed. The size of the place won't affect the antlers as much as the sex ratio.

I would think long and hard before fencing this size of place. Our place is 670 acres of solid oaks. It hunts like it is 1000 with the cover and hills.

What are you trying to do with it?

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#1600739 - 08/16/10 03:32 PM Re: How much acreage to game fence? [Re: Tye]
cameron00 Offline
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Registered: 01/08/09
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Loc: Texas
It completely kills the surprise when you can literally identify every, single deer on the place.

If I had the money to buy a huge place, I personally probably wouldn't HF less than about 2000 acres.

Just personal preference though. Do as you will.


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#1601133 - 08/16/10 05:59 PM Re: How much acreage to game fence? [Re: cameron00]
Tye Offline
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Originally Posted By: cameron00
It completely kills the surprise when you can literally identify every, single deer on the place.

If I had the money to buy a huge place, I personally probably wouldn't HF less than about 2000 acres.

Just personal preference though. Do as you will.


I agree to a point. I can recognize the more mature deer from year to year...which is maybe 8-10.

You do loose the surprise factor during the hunting season. Especially if you run night cameras. It would be totally different if you didn't.

The surprise part comes during the summer when you can see what your management decisions have done to the herd from the previous year.

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#1601162 - 08/16/10 06:07 PM Re: How much acreage to game fence? [Re: Tye]
don k Offline
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Registered: 08/27/08
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A lot has to do with you and your neighbors. If you have a 100 acre place in south Tx. you should probably not take more than 1 buck off it a year if it is low fenced. If your neighbors are doing the same you will be able to take that 1 buck. If not then maybe you are better off high fencing it. You still have to think of the cost of the fencing, feeding the deer, being there to do it and are you really going to be able to sell the deer. Remember, there is a lot of competition out there and most have been at it a long time. Just my 2 cents. Donald

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#1601265 - 08/16/10 06:37 PM Re: How much acreage to game fence? [Re: don k]
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Depending on what part of south Texas and how much rainfall you get......you can have a healthy herd of 100 deer on 300 acres if you plant at least 10-15% in high quality food plots (which should be fenced to let the forage mature) and supplemental feed year round, along with ample water and a few techniques of managing your brush. I definitely wouldn't go smaller than 200 acres.

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#1601425 - 08/16/10 07:34 PM Re: How much acreage to game fence? [Re: Eland Slayer]
txtrophy85 Offline
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we had 1200 acres high fenced, we recently sold off everything but 300 acres that remains high fence.

we have an estimated 80+ whitetail along with about 40 axis on the place, suprisingly, it is still fun, I haven't noticed the "zoo" factor, we are heavy brush, bottoms with plenty of places to hide.

we feed protien and also plant a 20 acre pivot field for more grocercies for the animals.

to be honest, I thought it would be like shooting fish in a barrel, but its just as fun hunting the 300 as it was when it was 1200. of course I wish we still had the whole ranch, but as far as hunting goes, it hasn't changed a bit. looking forward to being able to grow some bigger deer.





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#1601449 - 08/16/10 07:43 PM Re: How much acreage to game fence? [Re: cameron00]
Thundervee Offline


Registered: 06/14/09
Posts: 10346
Loc: Shepherd/Edwards County
Originally Posted By: cameron00
It completely kills the surprise when you can literally identify every, single deer on the place.

If I had the money to buy a huge place, I personally probably wouldn't HF less than about 2000 acres.

Just personal preference though. Do as you will.


I agree TOTALLY!!!

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#1601558 - 08/16/10 08:14 PM Re: How much acreage to game fence? [Re: Thundervee]
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Registered: 07/27/09
Posts: 488
Loc: Havana, FL
I have a friend with 300 acres under high fence in North Florida. The land is very thick and tough to see a specific deer. He has a high density of approximately 100 deer, but with the supplimental feeding, food plots, and prescribed burning he does, he has a very healthy deer herd. He has been under fence for four years now and was trying to get some of his trophy bucks to over age five. Last year he lost many of those bigger class bucks due to fighting. You can only have so many mature bucks per square mile, regardless of how thick the habitat is. He plans to start reducing the number of his bigger bucks to reduce that loss.


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#1601688 - 08/16/10 08:54 PM Re: How much acreage to game fence? [Re: CFR]
redseal Offline
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Registered: 12/28/09
Posts: 866
Loc: Kerrville
your land your decision just like they said though with 200 acres there's not a lot of room to hide on flat land now in the hill country like around kerr county you might never see those deer on 200 hundred acres deer proofed cause you'll have draws and cedar and hills.

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#1602055 - 08/16/10 10:49 PM Re: How much acreage to game fence? [Re: redseal]
SplitTimeHunter Offline
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Loc: Huntin Wisconsin & Old Mexico ...
IMO. 200-300 acres high-fenced is a joke. You will need to make sure you have water first of all. Then plenty of food sources. Only way I would do this is if I was going to buy specific bucks from breeders, for specific hunters and sell the "hunt". Make sure you have a nice lodge for the hunters to hang out at, cause it wont take long to tour the ranchette.


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