texashuntingforum.com logo
Main Menu
Advertisement
Affiliates
Advertisement
Newest Members
TraeMartin, Beatixre, MooseSteed, Trappernewt, casyoo
71987 Registered Users
Top Posters(All Time)
dogcatcher 110,788
bill oxner 91,416
SnakeWrangler 65,416
stxranchman 60,296
Gravytrain 46,950
RKHarm24 44,585
rifleman 44,461
Stub 43,768
Forum Statistics
Forums46
Topics536,997
Posts9,719,282
Members86,987
Most Online25,604
Feb 12th, 2024
Print Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Do Deer Come to Corn By Smell or Sound #1087369 12/07/09 02:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 7,273
B
BenBob Offline OP
THF Trophy Hunter
OP Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
B
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 7,273
Do deer come to corn because of smell or because of the sound made by the feeder? WHat about when a road is corned for the first time? Do the deer stumble across the corn and then keep coming back as long as the corn is there or do they hear the feeder and come to investigate and get rewarded with the corn?



Tired, Wired, and Uninspired
Re: Do Deer Come to Corn By Smell or Sound [Re: BenBob] #1087374 12/07/09 02:56 PM
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 18,087
J
Jasb Offline
THF Celebrity
Offline
THF Celebrity
J
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 18,087
The ones in my yard (tameish) come out anytime I hit the feeder button. At the ranch they come to the feeder when there is nothing else to eat.


Re: Do Deer Come to Corn By Smell or Sound [Re: Jasb] #1087392 12/07/09 03:04 PM
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 11,669
C
cody Offline
THF Celebrity
Offline
THF Celebrity
C
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 11,669
We hand fed for years...they don't hear that...I'm inclined to say smell...


Re: Do Deer Come to Corn By Smell or Sound [Re: cody] #1087400 12/07/09 03:09 PM
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 19,100
dgilbert Offline
THF Celebrity
Offline
THF Celebrity
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 19,100
I'm sure both, but I think sound over smell though, I put small pieces of hard plastic aroung my varmit cage, so when the corn hits it, it makes a loud sound, so they know when the dinner bell is going off.


Re: Do Deer Come to Corn By Smell or Sound [Re: dgilbert] #1087427 12/07/09 03:20 PM
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,782
L
Lazy L Offline
Pro Tracker
Offline
Pro Tracker
L
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,782
I say both, I say that cause we throw a lot by hand and they always find it and I have watched deer come and just stare at a feeder waiting to go off. Or when it does go off they come out like clock work.



"Hey running' buddy what'll say to a twelve pack"



Re: Do Deer Come to Corn By Smell or Sound [Re: Lazy L] #1087459 12/07/09 03:35 PM
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,016
S
SingleShot85 Offline
Veteran Tracker
Offline
Veteran Tracker
S
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,016
The come by smell. But they are conditioned by sound. I'd bet if you had a recording of a feeder going off, but not distribute corn, deer would stop coming to that location with in a few visits. On the flip side if you a rigged a feeder that would dispense corn quietly it would still attract deer.

I just might have to do an experiment to find out how long each would take to develop a pattern


Re: Do Deer Come to Corn By Smell or Sound [Re: SingleShot85] #1087472 12/07/09 03:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 7,273
B
BenBob Offline OP
THF Trophy Hunter
OP Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
B
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 7,273
I have a little gadget that sounds like a feeder going off. I use it if a deer is at a feeder and leaves without getting a good look at it or if a doe has a buck trailing her, but she is a long ways off. You turn this little gadget on it sounds like corn hitting metal. Almost everytime I use it, deer show up looking for the chow.



Tired, Wired, and Uninspired
Re: Do Deer Come to Corn By Smell or Sound [Re: BenBob] #1087507 12/07/09 03:56 PM
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,016
S
SingleShot85 Offline
Veteran Tracker
Offline
Veteran Tracker
S
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,016
Classical conditioning (also Pavlovian or respondent conditioning, Pavlovian reinforcement) is a form of associative learning that was first demonstrated by Ivan Pavlov.[1] The typical procedure for inducing classical conditioning involves presentations of a neutral stimulus along with a stimulus of some significance.

neutral stimulus- sound of corn hitting metal.


Re: Do Deer Come to Corn By Smell or Sound [Re: SingleShot85] #1087654 12/07/09 04:57 PM
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 44
J
john.sharp Offline
Light Foot
Offline
Light Foot
J
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 44
Smell, because they do not always hear the feeder go off. I have moved my feeder to a new location and they find it that same day I moved it.


Last edited by john.sharp; 12/07/09 04:57 PM.

The Huntin Cabin, Everything about the outdoors!
www.thehuntincabin.com
Re: Do Deer Come to Corn By Smell or Sound [Re: SingleShot85] #1087685 12/07/09 05:10 PM
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 7,273
B
BenBob Offline OP
THF Trophy Hunter
OP Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
B
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 7,273
Originally Posted By: doctaylor
Classical conditioning (also Pavlovian or respondent conditioning, Pavlovian reinforcement) is a form of associative learning that was first demonstrated by Ivan Pavlov.[1] The typical procedure for inducing classical conditioning involves presentations of a neutral stimulus along with a stimulus of some significance.

neutral stimulus- sound of corn hitting metal.



Can we get a dumbass interpretation of that for me? I may not be smart, but I don't work very hard.



Tired, Wired, and Uninspired
Re: Do Deer Come to Corn By Smell or Sound [Re: BenBob] #1087713 12/07/09 05:23 PM
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 20,366
C
Curly Offline
Overrated
Offline
Overrated
C
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 20,366
I would say smell more so than sound:



Re: Do Deer Come to Corn By Smell or Sound [Re: BenBob] #1087779 12/07/09 05:52 PM
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,016
S
SingleShot85 Offline
Veteran Tracker
Offline
Veteran Tracker
S
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,016
[/quote] Can we get a dumbass interpretation of that for me? I may not be smart, but I don't work very hard. [/quote]

The deer associate the sound of the feeder with food, but initially it was the smell of food "corn or feed" that attracted them to the site.

Curly's pictures pretty much sums it up, deer eating and no feeder racket.

Another example, you drive in out to feed your cows in the same truck every day for week the next week you drive a cross the pasture to fix a water leak and you look in your rear view mirror and your entire herd is following and "moooooooing". Cows are not attracted to trucks nor deer to feeder sounds with out the association of food.




Last edited by doctaylor; 12/07/09 05:53 PM.
Re: Do Deer Come to Corn By Smell or Sound [Re: SingleShot85] #1087814 12/07/09 06:10 PM
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 849
B
Boudreaux Offline
Tracker
Offline
Tracker
B
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 849
I will say sight and smell if you dont have a electronic feeder. I know deer will still come to a feeder when they hear one even if its ran outta corn. I know a deer can find every single kernel of corn on the ground if I have thrown it out by hand.

Maybe its all of the above?



Stickin' gills and Stackin' bills

In a world of compromise..... some dont....
Re: Do Deer Come to Corn By Smell or Sound [Re: Boudreaux] #1087941 12/07/09 07:05 PM
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 558
A
age n score Offline
Tracker
Offline
Tracker
A
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 558
peep



I feed Indian Corn, the deer really seem to like it and stay at the feeder longer......and longer....!
Re: Do Deer Come to Corn By Smell or Sound [Re: Boudreaux] #1088808 12/08/09 12:44 AM
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 769
Jon Offline
Tracker
Offline
Tracker
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 769
+1 on All the Above theory

Some of our guys think they must know what a feeder looks like because we put up a brand new one in a new spot 2 weeks before Thanksgiving. Finished banging around on the pen about 3 in the afternoon, and set the timer for 5 pm and 7 am.
We threw up a pop-up ground blind about 90 yds away and left. One guy hunted there the very next morning, The feeder went off at 7 AM and at at 7:03, 5 does went in that pen and started chowing down. They had to be just waiting back in that brush for it to go off and with it only being there about 16 hours, It just makes us think the deer saw it (or had sat back and watched us put it up and fill it with corn) and knew from past experience if they were hanging around come daylight that corn was going to come out of it. A short while later, a couple of bucks came in and it's had multiple deer, bucks and does coming in ever time someones hunted it since that first morning.

But on that first morning, it had only went off once before and that was at 5 pm the previous evening so that particular group of deer may have smelled the corn, but they couldn't have had time to get trained on that feeder for coming to eat there in the morning because it had never put out corn in the morning there before. But somehow, they knew it was going to go off that next morning and they didn't come in the pen till a few minutes after it had went off. I'm convinced they know what a feeder looks like by sight.

I'm also convinced about the sound of a feeder going off bringing them in, but I believe smell might also be just as important as well.
One of our guys had filled a different feeder with that corn HEB sells that has the apple smell added. He had the empty sacks in his truck and had walked around a bit checking out some other spots. When he got back to the truck, there was 4 does standing right around the truck looking at the bed where those sacks were and there's no reason we can think of they'd have been doing that unless they smelled that corn.
So I vote for all three - sight, sound, and smell.


Re: Do Deer Come to Corn By Smell or Sound [Re: Jon] #1088907 12/08/09 01:23 AM
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 20,366
C
Curly Offline
Overrated
Offline
Overrated
C
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 20,366
If you think deer come to feeder sounds more than smell, then maybe this is for you:

up



Last edited by Curly; 12/08/09 01:27 AM.
Re: Do Deer Come to Corn By Smell or Sound [Re: BenBob] #1088966 12/08/09 01:36 AM
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 77
S
sodaman Offline
Outdoorsman
Offline
Outdoorsman
S
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 77
DOCTAYLOR, YOU ARE CORRECT. DEER ARE NOT STUPID. THEY LEARN THAT CERTAIN TREES DROP ACORNS QUIETLY. THEY WILL RETURN TO THAT TREE. IF A TELEPHONE POLE PROVIDED FOOD THEY WOULD RETURN TO THAT TELEPHONE POLE. PERSONALY I THINK SMELL WOULD BE A VERY MINOR REASON FOR THEIR RETURN.



Mike Turner
Re: Do Deer Come to Corn By Smell or Sound [Re: BenBob] #1089064 12/08/09 01:57 AM
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,959
S
Scoop Offline
Pro Tracker
Offline
Pro Tracker
S
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,959
Originally Posted By: BenBob
Do deer come to corn because of smell or because of the sound made by the feeder?


Neither, I think it has more to do with taste banana


Re: Do Deer Come to Corn By Smell or Sound [Re: sodaman] #1089078 12/08/09 02:00 AM
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 20,366
C
Curly Offline
Overrated
Offline
Overrated
C
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 20,366
confused2


Re: Do Deer Come to Corn By Smell or Sound [Re: Curly] #1089085 12/08/09 02:02 AM
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 20,366
C
Curly Offline
Overrated
Offline
Overrated
C
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 20,366
They come back to a spot out of habit and ONLY if there's a continual food source. They sniff it out to begin with....I personally think smell plays a major role but that's just lil ol' me.


Last edited by Curly; 12/08/09 02:03 AM.
Re: Do Deer Come to Corn By Smell or Sound [Re: sodaman] #1089112 12/08/09 02:07 AM
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 49
S
schapman Offline
Light Foot
Offline
Light Foot
S
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 49
I know both. We have done several things over the years for me to determine this.

Smell - We hunted a couple of places we have used this in our favor. We had a large area of brush in s. texas it had a road that ran along it for about 3/4 mile. Thick brush on one side and a open field on the other. When the wind was blowing out of the north we would see 5x the number of deer after we fed it. Wind out of the south we might not see anything.

Sound - I had a deer feeder business back in the mid 80's. I had an uncle that would throw corn out for the turkeys and ring a big bell. They would be there in 5 min.. I decided to put a load buzzer on one of my feeders to go off when the feeder motor went off. I put it on another property thinking I would train the turkeys over there. After a couple of weeks I went out to watch the feeder go off I didn't see any turkeys but from where I was sitting I could see deer from as far away as 300 yards moving towards the feeder a couple of times I saw deer running to within 75 yards of the feeder then they would slow down.


Re: Do Deer Come to Corn By Smell or Sound [Re: schapman] #1089438 12/08/09 03:22 AM
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 6,314
K
KG68 Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
K
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 6,314
Our deer must be educated. They almost always show up at the feeders a few minutes before they go off. We have our feeders set to go off a second feeding 20 minutes later in the afternoon and most of them hang around and wait for it also. I realize these are the regulars but they seem to bring new friends everyday. I love it when a newcomer is standing under the feeder when it goes off again. Scares the sheet out of'um.


Re: Do Deer Come to Corn By Smell or Sound [Re: KG68] #1089545 12/08/09 03:46 AM
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 11,248
L
Longhunter Offline
THF Celebrity
Offline
THF Celebrity
L
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 11,248
Smell, When I hand feed you can watch them catch wind and walk straight to it. But when you move a feeder to a new location they hear the feeder and come to it as well. So I would say both...



Longhunter >>>-------> Make It Count!!!<><





Re: Do Deer Come to Corn By Smell or Sound [Re: Longhunter] #1089721 12/08/09 04:36 AM
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 20,366
C
Curly Offline
Overrated
Offline
Overrated
C
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 20,366
Smell first, then sound second....if a deer hears the sound of a feeder for the very first time, he won't know what the noise is but when he smells the corn or whatever is in the feeder once it throws, he will then come to it. Deer go to food plots over and I don't think food plots ever make a sound.


Re: Do Deer Come to Corn By Smell or Sound [Re: Curly] #1091720 12/09/09 01:00 AM
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 5,306
D
DLALLDER Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
D
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 5,306
I hunted an area last week that my partner had poured out a 5 gallon bucket of acorns on the ground plus a 50 lb bag of corn on a Friday. The game camera showed the deer eating the last acorn before they touched the corn. By Tuesday both were completly gone and we poured out one more bag of corn and again the camera showed the deer coming to it within 2 hours in the middle of the day and that bag was 3/4 gone the next morning when I crawled in the stand.






Page 1 of 2 1 2
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread

© 2004-2024 OUTDOOR SITES NETWORK all rights reserved USA and Worldwide
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3