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PSA 308 not firing
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12/07/17 03:54 AM
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BigPig
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Dad’s PSA AR10 308 has decided to piss me off and stop firing. It sounds like the hammer is still hitting the firing pin with good force, but there are zero firing pin marks on the primer. We took the bolt apart prior to hunting because we had a blown primer and there was quite a bit of powder in the bolt. Everything cleaned, oiled, and put back together. Firing pin and everything moves freely.
What gives?
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Re: PSA 308 not firing
[Re: BigPig]
#6986266
12/07/17 03:56 AM
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Bee'z
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Call Kyle. Frigging JG junior
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Re: PSA 308 not firing
[Re: BigPig]
#6986271
12/07/17 03:59 AM
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RiverRider
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That's awesome!
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Re: PSA 308 not firing
[Re: BigPig]
#6986302
12/07/17 04:31 AM
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KRoyal
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Take a pic of the BCG for me
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Re: PSA 308 not firing
[Re: Bee'z]
#6986309
12/07/17 04:41 AM
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BigPig
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Call Kyle. Frigging JG junior I was trying to line of 3 turkeys this weekend and it decided to fail to fire. If it wasn’t dad’s gun it would’ve been hurled at the turkeys I was so mad.
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Re: PSA 308 not firing
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#6986310
12/07/17 04:42 AM
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BigPig
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Take a pic of the BCG for me Will do tomorrow. You should consult with Beez and I before employing a new logo
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Re: PSA 308 not firing
[Re: BigPig]
#6986313
12/07/17 04:50 AM
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KRoyal
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Take a pic of the BCG for me Will do tomorrow. You should consult with Beez and I before employing a new logo Lol no y'all should quit seeing things.
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Re: PSA 308 not firing
[Re: KRoyal]
#6986317
12/07/17 04:56 AM
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Bee'z
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Take a pic of the BCG for me Will do tomorrow. You should consult with Beez and I before employing a new logo Lol no y'all should quit seeing things. Who is yall in this... That is what I want to know...
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Re: PSA 308 not firing
[Re: BigPig]
#6986340
12/07/17 05:54 AM
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Bee'z
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Call Kyle. Frigging JG junior I was trying to line of 3 turkeys this weekend and it decided to fail to fire. If it wasn’t dad’s gun it would’ve been hurled at the turkeys I was so mad. I somehow forgot I need to be nice to you right now That went out the effing window quick.
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Re: PSA 308 not firing
[Re: BigPig]
#6986376
12/07/17 11:33 AM
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Tye
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Did you inspect the firing pin tip? Was the BCG fully engaging into the receiver? Got a pic of the dented primer?
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Re: PSA 308 not firing
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#6986468
12/07/17 01:24 PM
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VAFish
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So gun was working fine. You had a blown primer, took the bolt apart, cleaned it and put it back together and now gun doesn't work.
Whenever something mechanical is giving me problems I look at the last thing I did to it as the first source of problems.
I see two strong possibilities.
1. Your blown primer damaged the tip of the firing pin causing light strikes.
2. Something in your bolt stripping and cleaning was not done correctly. Either you still have some powder, and bits of metal in the firing pin channel, (my strongest suspicion is that you still have a small piece of primer in there blocking things) or you put something back together incorrectly. (and knowing AR BCG's like I do I can't think of how you could do that and still have the firing pin moving freely.
With the BCG out of the gun can you press forward on the back of the firing pin and see how much protrudes from the bolt face?
Last edited by VAFish; 12/07/17 01:28 PM.
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Re: PSA 308 not firing
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#6986538
12/07/17 02:09 PM
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Tactical Cowboy
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My bet is the firing pin retaining pin was installed before the firing pin.
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Re: PSA 308 not firing
[Re: Tactical Cowboy]
#6986550
12/07/17 02:19 PM
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KRoyal
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My bet is the firing pin retaining pin was installed before the firing pin. Yep this is where I'm leaning. If the firing pin is moving freely as in not staying in place, the pin was installed before the firing pin and its not allowing the firing pin to go as far forward as it should. Was waiting for a pic, but this is what I'm leaning towards.
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Re: PSA 308 not firing
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#6986665
12/07/17 03:22 PM
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ChadTRG42
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The blown primer raises my red flag. Lots can cause problems from this.
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Re: PSA 308 not firing
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#6986700
12/07/17 03:39 PM
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J.G.
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I have never touched this rifle.
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Re: PSA 308 not firing
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#6986762
12/07/17 04:04 PM
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QuitShootinYoungBucks
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I have never touched this rifle. Around it? Near it? In the same area code?
https://web.archive.org/web/20170223065011/http:/www.rrdvegas.com/silencer-cleaning.html
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Re: PSA 308 not firing
[Re: QuitShootinYoungBucks]
#6986775
12/07/17 04:10 PM
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J.G.
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I have never touched this rifle. Around it? Near it? In the same area code? None of those either. This one is not on me, 100%.
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Re: PSA 308 not firing
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#6986868
12/07/17 04:54 PM
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Bee'z
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I have never touched this rifle. Around it? Near it? In the same area code? The rifle in question was in Sherman Friday afternoon. I suspect that was close enough
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Re: PSA 308 not firing
[Re: Bee'z]
#6986887
12/07/17 05:04 PM
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KRoyal
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I have never touched this rifle. Around it? Near it? In the same area code? The rifle in question was in Sherman Friday afternoon. I suspect that was close enough You'd be surprised just how little it takes for Jason to mess up a gas gun.
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Re: PSA 308 not firing
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#6986955
12/07/17 05:38 PM
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J.G.
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Yeah, and I made this a few weeks ago. (Not sure why it's sideways)
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Re: PSA 308 not firing
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#6986958
12/07/17 05:40 PM
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QuitShootinYoungBucks
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I have never touched this rifle. Around it? Near it? In the same area code? The rifle in question was in Sherman Friday afternoon. I suspect that was close enough You'd be surprised just how little it takes for Jason to mess up a gas gun.
https://web.archive.org/web/20170223065011/http:/www.rrdvegas.com/silencer-cleaning.html
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Re: PSA 308 not firing
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#6987022
12/07/17 06:19 PM
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BigPig
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I’ll look at the bolt and try to post some pics. It was factory Hornady ammo that blew the primer
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Re: PSA 308 not firing
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#6987723
12/08/17 02:31 AM
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I have never touched this rifle. Around it? Near it? In the same area code? The rifle in question was in Sherman Friday afternoon. I suspect that was close enough You'd be surprised just how little it takes for Jason to mess up a gas gun. Truth!
I was wrong...on anything technical. Fitz............. is right, ya know............
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Re: PSA 308 not firing
[Re: BigPig]
#6987981
12/08/17 11:54 AM
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I’ll look at the bolt and try to post some pics. It was factory Hornady ammo that blew the primer Gotta wonder if there's something else going on with the gun, in that case.
"Arguing with you always makes me thirsty." -Augustus McRae
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Re: PSA 308 not firing
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#6988755
12/08/17 08:27 PM
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Payne
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I've had Hornady factory ammo blow primers in 22-250 & 308, both were bolt guns.
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