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Hunting Trip gone bad. #6622935 01/09/17 12:50 AM
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Keep these folks in your prayers. I wish they could have gotten every one of those sob's.

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Looks like they are going to have to set up a few Claymores around the camp at night.


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Saw this just a few minutes ago. Sad situation. rifle

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Originally Posted By: Mr. T.
Looks like they are going to have to set up a few Claymores around the camp at night.


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That's an act of war. Attacked on our sovereign soil.


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I just turned it on . I was looking bird dogs in the butt this morning.


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The Russians did it.

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this is why we need the wall SOON !

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Originally Posted By: breadman
this is why we need the wall SOON !


Amen!

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This is the reason folks keep AR-15s with extra 30 rd mags with them.

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Only a matter of time before the Mexico style kidnappings start occurring here.

Prayers for the guide. Dam brave young man.

And some on here have said it's hysterics to be worried about and to try and be semi-prepared for this type of thing. Yes, some are "just trying to make a better life", but not all. The bad ones need to be dealt with with as much ruthlessness as they possess.


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That wall needs to be built ASAP. Prayers to that man and his family.

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Only a matter of time before the Mexico style kidnappings start occurring here.


Sadly, I think they have already. Last year in McAllen.

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Has the mainstream media heard about this or are they turning their back to it?


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Originally Posted By: decook
That's an act of war. Attacked on our sovereign soil.


No, it isn't an act of war, LOL. Nobody knows if it was even foreigners and if it was, if it was foreigners representing a governing body. American commit violent crimes in other countries with some regularity, but they aren't acts of war.

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Only a matter of time before the Mexico style kidnappings start occurring here.


This stuff has been going on for 20 years that I can recall and isn't anything particularly new.

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Has the mainstream media heard about this or are they turning their back to it?


Yeah, it made the media. No indication that it was what is being claimed in the blog.

http://www.cbs7.com/content/news/409992435.html
http://www.newswest9.com/story/34208344/...ty-friday-night
http://www.everythinglubbock.com/news/st...night/637371539


A LOT of the information in the BLOG is just supposition. Things are not adding up at this point.



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Originally Posted By: Double Naught Spy
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That's an act of war. Attacked on our sovereign soil.


No, it isn't an act of war, LOL. Nobody knows if it was even foreigners and if it was, if it was foreigners representing a governing body. American commit violent crimes in other countries with some regularity, but they aren't acts of war.

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Only a matter of time before the Mexico style kidnappings start occurring here.


This stuff has been going on for 20 years that I can recall and isn't anything particularly new.

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Has the mainstream media heard about this or are they turning their back to it?


Yeah, it made the media. No indication that it was what is being claimed in the blog.

http://www.cbs7.com/content/news/409992435.html
http://www.newswest9.com/story/34208344/...ty-friday-night
http://www.everythinglubbock.com/news/st...night/637371539


A LOT of the information in the BLOG is just supposition. Things are not adding up at this point.




Really? Exactly what is not adding up? And where are your facts coming from besides the brief short facebook links you posted?

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This is the reason folks keep AR-15s with extra 30 rd mags with them.

Not the only reason but yeah, one of the big ones.


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X2 on the story not being 100% for me at least.

I've had friends get taken along with their neighbors and families across the border. There's always a reason why and I've never heard of them shooting up a place like that and then simply leaving while on foot.

I hope anyone injured makes it through safely, but a whole group of sicarios showing up at a hunting camp on foot at random? Nah.

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A few years ago there was a point blank murder in south lake town square during broad daylight. No one knew the reason, until it turned out it was likely related to drug cartel/lawyer dealings and not a mass murder (could have been as the guys family was in the car) or act of terrorism, or war.

A targeted attack in a specific place to kidnap a family or group of people begs the question of why were they targeted?

It stinks the guys got shot, and I do hope the guide recovers, but what does anyone gain by kidnapping joe blow hunter vs kidnapping someone they have specific knowledge of and know is worth something dead or alive?

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I heard the guide and his people were trying to shoot the tires out on rv so it could not be driven off



Isn't the best way to save face to keep the lower part shut?
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Drug cartel, they might have been calling BP when they spotted the mules on the ranch.

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Really? Exactly what is not adding up? And where are your facts coming from besides the brief short facebook links you posted?


LOL, no facebook links posted. What doesn't add up is the cops not declaring this attack as an attack. The Sheriff's office specifically stated
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which is what is being intimated in the blog. So that doesn't add up right there. Next is the information from the blog. The folks in the blog stated they believe they were going to be killed, but it is interesting to note by the description that the RV was the apparent target of the purported gunmen. The blog states Walker was injured trying to prevent the RV from being stolen. Why attempt to steal the RV and then kill the people when you can kill the people and then steal the RV?

So according to the blog, Walker was injured trying to prevent the RV from being stolen and "the hunter" (Edwin Roberts) was injured trying to drive away the RV during the attack. So who is trying to steal the RV, the purported Mexicans or the Edwin Roberts? Or were the invaders trying to steal the RV, but were driven off by Walker and Michael and then Edwin decided to go for a ride?

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The family says the men and their wives were grilled about the veracity of their account by Law Enforcement and the assailants got away and likely returned to Mexico.


So apparently there is doubt in the story from the law enforcement perspective who found no evidence of the attackers being from across the border and The Family backs up this doubt by noting how they were grilled about the veracity of their story.

So no, it doesn't add up as I see it. Maybe it will all wash out, but right now, there are too much lack of congruence.


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