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Does this boar look slightly Domesticated to yall? #6260899 04/15/16 03:16 AM
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Got this pig coming in and me and my buddies are arguing if he looks half or a quarter or an eighth domesticated or something lol tell me what yall think!!! cowboy

also the knot or whole in the tree ( the top of the knot or whole is almost 3 feet tall so you can tell he is big )





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Re: Does this boar look slightly Domesticated to yall? [Re: TexasOutdoorsman] #6260932 04/15/16 03:44 AM
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What makes you think he looks domesticated? I'm no expert, but to me his torso/body length makes it appear he may have some domestic traits.

Re: Does this boar look slightly Domesticated to yall? [Re: TexasOutdoorsman] #6260939 04/15/16 03:52 AM
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Yeah his body is longer and he is lighter color


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Re: Does this boar look slightly Domesticated to yall? [Re: TexasOutdoorsman] #6260950 04/15/16 04:07 AM
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Feral, just a lighter 'splotched' hog.

Don't believe the knot in the tree is 3' high though. IF it is...then the other two black hogs standing next to the tree are awfully big ones.

It takes a really big hog to stand 36" at the shoulder. Most won't make 30".


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Re: Does this boar look slightly Domesticated to yall? [Re: flintknapper] #6261157 04/15/16 12:55 PM
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Its probably closer to 2 or 2 and a half. I was up late when posting this last night lol


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Re: Does this boar look slightly Domesticated to yall? [Re: TexasOutdoorsman] #6261266 04/15/16 02:06 PM
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Looks like a released ffa pig to me



Re: Does this boar look slightly Domesticated to yall? [Re: TexasOutdoorsman] #6261293 04/15/16 02:19 PM
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no hes just got some domestic blood in him... a good ways down the line imo... he was born in the wild

Re: Does this boar look slightly Domesticated to yall? [Re: TexasOutdoorsman] #6261487 04/15/16 04:35 PM
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It's my understanding that pretty much all of the hogs in Texas are feral, meaning they come from domestic stock somewhere back in time. There may be bit of "Russian Boar" in there, but it's highly diluted.

My father-in-law, who had a farm a little east of New Braunfels, said they didn't have a hog problem around there for many years until there was an accident involving a truck carrying live hogs. A number of them escaped, and suddenly they had hogs in the area. This happened several decades ago according to him.


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Re: Does this boar look slightly Domesticated to yall? [Re: TexasOutdoorsman] #6261625 04/15/16 06:18 PM
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per wild life biologist, domestic hogs that escape become feral in very short time


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Re: Does this boar look slightly Domesticated to yall? [Re: TexasOutdoorsman] #6261651 04/15/16 06:36 PM
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Re: Does this boar look slightly Domesticated to yall? [Re: TexasOutdoorsman] #6261813 04/15/16 08:39 PM
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Im gonna shoot him dont worry! I know feral hogs where once domesticated pigs, im actually doig feild research on them now for my degree haha, we just where wondering how far back in that ones blood line was there a domesticated pig


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Re: Does this boar look slightly Domesticated to yall? [Re: TexasOutdoorsman] #6262540 04/16/16 02:11 PM
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Looks feral ... shoot him and take pics.

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Originally Posted By: Connercox25
Im gonna shoot him dont worry! I know feral hogs where once domesticated pigs, im actually doig feild research on them now for my degree haha, we just where wondering how far back in that ones blood line was there a domesticated pig


If you could truly work that out, it would be amazing, but I think it would be impossible to determine from phenotypic (morphological expression of genetic code) traits exactly what level of genotypic (genetic code) change has occurred (how feral is the hog?). This is especially true considering that while domestic traits may have been relegated to being recessive in a long term feral population, they may show up quite well in offspring with a double recessive chromosome match for a given phenotype or phenotypes.

So there will be hurdles, but if you can overcome them somehow, that would be really cool!


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Originally Posted By: Double Naught Spy
If you could truly work that out, it would be amazing, but I think it would be impossible to determine from phenotypic (morphological expression of genetic code) traits exactly what level of genotypic (genetic code) change has occurred (how feral is the hog?). This is especially true considering that while domestic traits may have been relegated to being recessive in a long term feral population, they may show up quite well in offspring with a double recessive chromosome match for a given phenotype or phenotypes.

So there will be hurdles, but if you can overcome them somehow, that would be really cool!


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If you could truly work that out, it would be amazing, but I think it would be impossible to determine from phenotypic (morphological expression of genetic code) traits exactly what level of genotypic (genetic code) change has occurred (how feral is the hog?). This is especially true considering that while domestic traits may have been relegated to being recessive in a long term feral population, they may show up quite well in offspring with a double recessive chromosome match for a given phenotype or phenotypes.

So there will be hurdles, but if you can overcome them somehow, that would be really cool!


Yeah, what he said . . . eek2



Translated, it means "We can't be certain, just shoot the pig!"


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Re: Does this boar look slightly Domesticated to yall? [Re: TexasOutdoorsman] #6263409 04/17/16 03:58 AM
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That is the kind of reductionist logic I like!


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He's still breathing. That's all you need.

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His ancestors were.

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Straight tail long time wild.

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