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Training #6206054 03/02/16 01:08 AM
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Bird season might be over, but the training never ends. Heck I know it's not a follow up for everyone's awesome pics of birds, but this is what it's all about...

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Great pictures. Love working with bird dogs after season.


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They both look like they can cover some country!!

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I still run dogs after the season is over, but I gave my CC away after breaking Cracker. Here you go.

Originally Posted By: bill oxner
I've had a few PMs asking about my training method. I did this on another forum, so I still have the pictures in my album, so here goes;

All bird dogs point. The breaking process teaches them to hold point. There are two ways to teach a dog to hold point, with dozens of variations. The first way is to let the birds train the pups. That generally involves launchers and pigeons, with some whoa breaking mixed in. It's very effective. I use the Delmar Smith method, substituting the e-collar for the bump under the chin. My dogs are completely whoa broke before I put them on birds. I use pen raised quail, because I can be done with them for the summer. I like to start in August, and finish in time for hunting season.

I start off on the whoa post. I introduce the e-collar the same day, that I introduce the whos post. Here's cracker on her first day with the whoa post;



I keep them on the whoa post only until I can get out in front of them, and then go to the yard for heel and whoa. Cracker tended to sit, so I had to start with the suitcase hitch. I go from the yard to longer walks. The pup has pretty well gotten it down after three weeks.



I then go from the walks to whoa in the field. Here's Cracker in the field in the field, before I put her on birds. This whole process has taken me around four weeks.



This is her first day on birds. I train alone, so I had to plant the bird, where I could wrap the CC around a bush. Notice the slack CC.



I kept her on the CC for three training days. She only went around on the bird one time. Here she is after 9 training flushes.




I started walking some of the birds out after a few days. Here you go;




A little side note. My birds were not recalling all that well, so I used Cookie to point them while I netted them;



A lot depends on the pup, and you have to adjust for each pup. Cracker has never taken out a single pointed bird or covey.


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Wild Bill is looking good. He is exactly where he needs to be. I'm happy you ended up with him.

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Yes sir, it's all working out. Thank you for the opportunity. Bill thanks for posting the training method bit, I've actually looked for it a couple months ago.

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Originally Posted By: Catch Dog
Yes sir, it's all working out. Thank you for the opportunity. Bill thanks for posting the training method bit, I've actually looked for it a couple months ago.


One thing I didn't write on there is to zip your lips, when the pup is on point. Pointing seems to put the pup in a trance, or spell. Any talking seems to break that spell.


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Originally Posted By: Catch Dog
Bird season might be over, but the training never ends. Heck I know it's not a follow up for everyone's awesome pics of birds, but this is what it's all about...

that is one fine looking setter


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Bill, do your dogs retrieve? Are you training them to whoa/sit at the hunters flush or do you let them head toward the fall once the birds fly?

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Originally Posted By: mattyg06
Bill, do your dogs retrieve? Are you training them to whoa/sit at the hunters flush or do you let them head toward the fall once the birds fly?


I'm down to my one last pointer named Cracker. I had to do ff on her. I'd like for her not to chase, but she does at times. It's a full time job to keep them steady. I've never taught a pointing dog to sit. Whoa is good enough for me.


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Originally Posted By: Catch Dog
Bird season might be over, but the training never ends. Heck I know it's not a follow up for everyone's awesome pics of birds, but this is what it's all about...



Pigeons or quail?


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