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Naval Special Warfare adopts Glock 19
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12/23/15 04:03 AM
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Big Fitz
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I'm sure many of you already knew this but thought I'd pass along. No surprise the Glock 19 was chosen. I wonder what their normal modifications will be. I guess they could not afford the XDm Glock 19
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Re: Naval Special Warfare adopts Glock 19
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12/23/15 04:10 AM
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Re: Naval Special Warfare adopts Glock 19
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12/23/15 04:33 AM
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Why wouldn't they use a full sized pistol??
The secret to a long life is to try not to shorten it.
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Re: Naval Special Warfare adopts Glock 19
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12/23/15 11:01 AM
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Why wouldn't they use a full sized pistol?? Best compromise between size, weight, and capacity. I guess someone forgot to tell those SEALs how ineffective the 9mm is...
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Re: Naval Special Warfare adopts Glock 19
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12/23/15 01:03 PM
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Why wouldn't they use a full sized pistol?? They carry a lot of gear and the pistol is secondary weapon.
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Re: Naval Special Warfare adopts Glock 19
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12/23/15 04:19 PM
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Why wouldn't they use a full sized pistol?? They carry a lot of gear and the pistol is secondary weapon. "Your pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should have never walked away from in the first place." Now I don't know if Col. Cooper said that or not, but it's a good quote. I think it applies directly to hunting just about anything larger than a rabbit.
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Re: Naval Special Warfare adopts Glock 19
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12/23/15 05:20 PM
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That's an awesome quote. I gotta remember that one.
I've said it for years, loves me my glock 19. No matter what anyone says about caliber, size, firing mechanism, no one can convince me that glock 19 specifically doesn't belong on the list of all time great guns.
I'm a dude who likes long barrels!
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Re: Naval Special Warfare adopts Glock 19
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12/23/15 05:27 PM
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Cheap, light, effective, durable and reliable. I'm sure the top brass will try to block this decision.
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Re: Naval Special Warfare adopts Glock 19
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12/23/15 05:29 PM
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It's an easy choice- cost vs. reliability and ease of use. Glock's not a sexy pistol, but it WORKS!!!
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Re: Naval Special Warfare adopts Glock 19
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12/23/15 07:48 PM
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Why wouldn't they use a full sized pistol?? They carry a lot of gear and the pistol is secondary weapon. So an extra two ounces is really gonna matter? Why would you want less ammo, less grip, and less sight radius?
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Re: Naval Special Warfare adopts Glock 19
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12/23/15 08:19 PM
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Why wouldn't they use a full sized pistol?? They carry a lot of gear and the pistol is secondary weapon. So an extra two ounces is really gonna matter? Why would you want less ammo, less grip, and less sight radius? I dunno. I don't have a direct line to MARSOC.
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Re: Naval Special Warfare adopts Glock 19
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12/23/15 08:19 PM
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See there it is again! I think Glocks ARE sexy looking! Call me crazy. Sorry Chad lol
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Re: Naval Special Warfare adopts Glock 19
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12/23/15 09:30 PM
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Special Operators practice constantly. Their 9MM ammo is pretty hot (submachine gun fodder) so I believe a change of recoil spring or the addition of a second recoil spring will be utilized. Glock 19 is about the perfect size for most hands.
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Re: Naval Special Warfare adopts Glock 19
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12/23/15 11:28 PM
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They've (DEVGRU) ran a suppressed Sig 9 & HK .45 for years. I wonder why the switch?
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Re: Naval Special Warfare adopts Glock 19
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12/23/15 11:37 PM
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Probably the same reason for the 5.56mm vs. the 7.62mm. A pound of 9mm rounds is more rounds than a pound of .45 ACP.
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Re: Naval Special Warfare adopts Glock 19
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12/24/15 01:27 AM
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I guess I will have to try the new Gen 4 Glock 17...just never liked the grip angle and wish they would add a new model with the angle similar to the 1911. No doubt Glock is a simple and elegant design...pure genius.
I just added a PRP Ultimate Match Trigger in my XDm 9mm and it is sweeeeet so am torn with the idea of yet another platform...trying to consolidate...damned expensive hobby!
I was wrong...on anything technical. Fitz............. is right, ya know............
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Re: Naval Special Warfare adopts Glock 19
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12/24/15 01:38 AM
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Probably the same reason for the 5.56mm vs. the 7.62mm. A pound of 9mm rounds is more rounds than a pound of .45 ACP. I think you missed the part where I said they were already using a Sig 9mm so why change to a Glock 9mm?
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Re: Naval Special Warfare adopts Glock 19
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12/24/15 01:50 AM
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I lumped the HK .45 in with the pistol talk in my head.
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Re: Naval Special Warfare adopts Glock 19
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12/24/15 03:42 AM
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If this is going to replace the sig sauer p226, i feel like it's a mistake. But, operators from all branches of the service have been shooting glocks for a while in Afghanistan...
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Re: Naval Special Warfare adopts Glock 19
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12/24/15 04:48 AM
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If this is going to replace the sig sauer p226, i feel like it's a mistake. But, operators from all branches of the service have been shooting glocks for a while in Afghanistan... I suspect their P226 Sigs are worn out.
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Re: Naval Special Warfare adopts Glock 19
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12/24/15 05:36 AM
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Everyone knows the only reason anyone carries a pistol with them while deployed is so they don't have to carry an M4 to the Chowhall, MWR, Gym, and anywhere else a weapon may be required haha.
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Re: Naval Special Warfare adopts Glock 19
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12/24/15 06:07 AM
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Why wouldn't they use a full sized pistol?? They carry a lot of gear and the pistol is secondary weapon. Truth. I had the opportunity to train with the Frog men for a few weeks last year. They train hard, fast, and for long hours. Their pistol is their last ditch effort. They all carried the P229, the midsize Sig, but never touched it
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Re: Naval Special Warfare adopts Glock 19
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12/24/15 03:31 PM
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Never liked the grip angle. Sig, M&P and 1911 fit me my hand much better.
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Re: Naval Special Warfare adopts Glock 19
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12/24/15 07:24 PM
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Everyone knows the only reason anyone carries a pistol with them while deployed is so they don't have to carry an M4 to the Chowhall, MWR, Gym, and anywhere else a weapon may be required haha.
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Re: Naval Special Warfare adopts Glock 19
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12/25/15 05:52 AM
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I have as much combat experience as Barney Fife, but... I know some teams guys and this is my opinion based on what I have learned from those guys. A pistol is the last resort, the end of the line, last thought you have kind of weapon for a teams guy. That said the pistol must operate and more rounds is a good thing. Glock sure fits that bill. And ounces do matter. I'm a Glock guy too.
Last edited by westexhunt; 12/25/15 05:53 AM.
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