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Nosler Ballistic Tips.....Love 'em or hate 'em? #5677453 03/31/15 12:01 PM
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This ought to stimulate some interesting offseason talk! What's your feelings on the Nosler BT's from the last 10 years.....not the earlier versions? And not any tipped bullet (Amax, E tip, TTSX, SST, etc) Just the Nosler BT or Winchester's CT Ballistic Tip....same thing.

I had a bad experience with the early versions and quit using them for a long time, but the last few years I've been real impressed with their performance on deer/exotics/pigs. I've heard they have the same jacket thickness as the Accubond, but the lead isn't bonded to the jacket......this seems to make sense with the exit wounds I've seen the last few years.

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I have used them and had good success. I have not had to track game for more than 15 yards. I have used the ammo on deer and hog.

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Stay off heavy bone and under 3200fps impact speeds then they are great.


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Start out heavy.

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I have been using Federal Premium 130grn Nosler Ballistic tip in my .270, and a100grn in my wife's 25-06 and a 55grn in her .223. All of them preform great and all but one I have dropped in their tracks. The one went about 15 to 20 yards and dropped. I love the Nosler Ballistic Tip.


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They are great. Keep them moderately heavy, and you should be fine. A 150 grain in a 308 might be too fast and light, but a 165 or 180 BT in a 308 is about ideal.

Also, pet peeve of mine. A "Ballistic Tip" is a bullet made only by Nosler. Nosler is the only company who makes a "Ballistic Tip". Many other bullet makers mfg a plastic tip bullet, like the Hornady A-max and SST, Sierra BlitzKing, and others, but they are NOT a "Ballistic Tip" (BT). Referring to other mfg plastic tip bullets as a BT is incorrect. A BT is a Nosler BT, and nothing else.


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I used the Winchester 150gr BST in 308 for a long time with excellent results. For some reason, I don't know if it was the particular lot or what, my rifle stopped grouping them well. I've switched to the SF-SST load from Hornady.


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I used them for 2 years with great success in my 270 shooting 130 grains. Then I shot a big cull buck right at dark in a food plot at about 50 yards and I was aiming for the shoulder so I would just drop the buck. Anyways it ran off no blood and showed up 2 weeks later on camera in my feeder pen with a broke shoulder and that was the last I ever saw of him. I would agree with the rest shoot a heavy bullet and stay off heavy bone.

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Shot them for several years out of a 270. Never lost anything. I try not to hit shoulders with them. They work but surely aren't my favorite, and like others have said I prefer them in heavy for cal offerings.


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I have used the Federal Premium 130 NBT in my 270 for the last ten years with great success and no failures. I think most shots are unpredictable that impact heavy bone. So why shoot there in the first place?

I shoot high shoulder and don't have to look for them. This impact point gets the outside edge of the shoulder where it is pretty thin and usually the major arteries going to the heart and lung.

I haven't found anything that groups as tight as this bullet, especially with factory loads. up


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I have used nosler ballistic tip for years. I have not had any problem with them.
I do like the accu bonded since that core will not separate on heavy game.

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they're fine bullets, just like their Partition line

here's one I recovered from a 230 lb hog shot last month (165 gr)

head shot, went through eye, destroyed the neck and shattered spine
lead disintegrated, fully mushroomed with base intact



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Great pic! Classic example of good expansion, but the lead core separated from the jacket. For a simple cup and lead core bullet, that's not bad!


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Oh no, not this again!!! On another subject Is that a NP or a BT , because I don't see lead in the front of that mushroomed bullet. I had separation problems with the NPs because of the solid base. I shot a deer with a NP in the shoulder and the advertised base was at the back of the gut under the skin on the opposite side, and the deer had 3 huge holes coming out of the bottom portion of the front of the deers chest that looked like one big hole. That bullet separated on contact and went 2 ways with the lead tumbling and grenading. I tried the Ballistic tip win supremes and did not like them. I had some luck with the scirrico. I remember it having a heavier,tapered base. Im sticking with the SPs thanks. up


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That's a pretty mushroom, but were is the lead. I'm sorry I'm not trying to be hateful, but I want the lead to be connected to the copper. When it separates It lightens up and you could have a catastrophe and it could cost you a deer. But its all about shot placement right?????? I known for making bad shots with good ammo. The proof is in the pudding in that picture, That don't look like what they promised you. Where's the lead. Ill stick with the soft points. They always have lead in them when I get them back. up


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I've used Nosler 130 gr in my .270 but have switched to Swift Scirocco's in the same grain bullet and now 150 gr from my .300 Win Mag. Very accurate in both guns and, knock on wood, have yet had a deer go more than 20 yds after being hit by either one. Actually, about 90% dropped in their steps.

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Nosler BT's are pretty much all I use these days, except for the 220 Swift, where I'm presently using 55 gr Sierra GK's to see if they'll hold together better in pigs. All I need now are some darn pigs.

I really like the Nosler BT's for their excellent accuracy and for how well they perform on deer and hogs. Call it decades of research with those bullets.

As an aside, in the 220 I've happily found that the 55 gr Sierra GK and the Nosler 55 gr Ballistic Tip shoot into the exact same POI at 100 yards. I've got some 130 gr Sierra GK's that I'll soon test in my 270. It would be great if they also shoot to the same spot.

And, for the record, if I had to switch to different bullets, I'd go to the Sierra GK's and do so happily.


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Originally Posted By: REALKILLER
Where's the lead.


it was in the neck, spine ... still in the animal's mass and that matters a lot ..

it did it's job by shattering and created a massive wound channel

that is all I am going to say about it, I don't want the cows to come home

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I know a guy that shot a buck with a nosler partition in the shoulder and the lead portion of the bullet came out by the head out of the neck? The one I told you about dropped the deer, but what if this happens and the lead doesn't make it to some vital contact? It could cost somebody their animal being lost. shocked


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Originally Posted By: REALKILLER
I know a guy that shot a buck with a nosler partition in the shoulder and the lead portion of the bullet came out by the head out of the neck? The one I told you about dropped the deer, but what if this happens and the lead doesn't make it to some vital contact? It could cost somebody their animal being lost. shocked


The Partition has 2 lead cores.


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if I had to switch to different bullets, I'd go to the Sierra GK's and do so happily.


I'm sure the GKs work well, but I don't want any bullet that has a tip that can be easily deformed.

FWIW, I've seen Remington Corelokts separate.


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Ya isn't the bottom one boxed in by copper. this is the part of the bullet that I would consider a solid base since that lead in the base will probably never see the light of day being boxed in. The frontal portion is the lead part of the bullet that goes hay wire. Kind of reminds me of a two piece bullet instead of a one piece. That's why they are known for coming apart. The first portion of lead is shollow mounted in the copper core. vs the lead going all the way to the bottom of the core. Those bullets remind me of wooden arrows. When they hit something hard they break in half. The weak point being in the middle. smile


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Originally Posted By: REALKILLER
Ya isn't the bottom one boxed in by copper. this is the part of the bullet that I would consider a solid base since that lead in the base will probably never see the light of day being boxed in. The frontal portion is the lead part of the bullet that goes hay wire. Kind of reminds me of a two piece bullet instead of a one piece. That's why they are known for coming apart. The first portion of lead is shollow mounted in the copper core. vs the lead going all the way to the bottom of the core. Those bullets remind me of wooden arrows. When they hit something hard they break in half. The weak point being in the middle. smile


They are not "KNOWN" for coming apart. They ARE known for being the benchmark that premium(bonded monometal etc) bullets are measured agains.

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Originally Posted By: REALKILLER
Ya isn't the bottom one boxed in by copper. this is the part of the bullet that I would consider a solid base since that lead in the base will probably never see the light of day being boxed in. The frontal portion is the lead part of the bullet that goes hay wire. Kind of reminds me of a two piece bullet instead of a one piece. That's why they are known for coming apart. The first portion of lead is shollow mounted in the copper core. vs the lead going all the way to the bottom of the core. Those bullets remind me of wooden arrows. When they hit something hard they break in half. The weak point being in the middle. smile


They are not "KNOWN" for coming apart. They ARE known for being the benchmark that premium(bonded monometal etc) bullets are measured agains.

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