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light loads for .30-30? #5668087 03/25/15 02:58 AM
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A guy I go to church with asked me about loading some "light" .30-30 rounds for his son. His son is a 2nd grader so 7 or 8 years old but kinda small for his age.

He wants a round that will have as little recoil as possible that the kid can learn to shoot with. He's going to be shooting a old bolt action .30-30 so that opens up some more bullet choices.

Anybody ever done something like this? got a recipe?

I guess a better question would be....can/should it be done. I think a .243 might be a better option for the kid.

Re: light loads for .30-30? [Re: Cow_doc.308] #5668158 03/25/15 03:55 AM
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Sure it can be done. The route with the most data might just be the Hodgdon website. H4895 powder is very versatile look at the 60% guideline in the link below.

http://www.hodgdon.com/PDF/H4895%20Reduced%20Rifle%20Loads.pdf

Another one is Accurate 5477
http://www.accuratepowder.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/WP_LoadSpec_1-23-14.pdf

Remington and Hornady offer reduced recoil loads for the 30-30 with 125gr bullets.

For a boltaction rifle it should be easy to duplicate the 300 blackout 110gr TTSX barnes load that would be low recoil


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Re: light loads for .30-30? [Re: Cow_doc.308] #5668163 03/25/15 04:03 AM
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Remington 30-30 managed recoil rounds - very light recoil

Re: light loads for .30-30? [Re: Cow_doc.308] #5668370 03/25/15 01:04 PM
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Careful and stick to the powder manufactures guideline on powder selection and charge weights or you could have a
Secondary Explosion Effect
http://forums.handloads.com/archive/forum_posts.asp?TID=13753

Use the data Kmon1 posted and also look for reduced load on those sites. Never go below the recommended minimum loads. GL cheers up


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Re: light loads for .30-30? [Re: Cow_doc.308] #5668376 03/25/15 01:12 PM
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I would start with a 100-110 grain round nose and H-4895.


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Re: light loads for .30-30? [Re: Cow_doc.308] #5668479 03/25/15 02:13 PM
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Check out the link below. 10 grains of Unique is a great plinking load in the 30-30.


http://castboolits.gunloads.com/archive/index.php/t-39923.html


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Re: light loads for .30-30? [Re: Cow_doc.308] #5668510 03/25/15 02:28 PM
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Check the cast boolits website. Look for 'cat sneeze' loads.
They also have links to some of the old reloading manuals, so that you can check the data .http://www.castpics.net/LoadData/OM/default.html
Lead bullets are the key. I have loaded 30-06 to the recoil where a 8yr old has fun shooting it.
As an example of published data, 120gr cast,7.0gr Red Dot, 1400fps. You can go lower, but when you go really low, check them in the rifle they will be used in so that they will not stick in the barrel, then increase .5grain. Some folks go as far as using a round ball instead of a bullet.

Re: light loads for .30-30? [Re: Cow_doc.308] #5668599 03/25/15 03:30 PM
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Per Hodgdons Website with 110gr bullets:

IMR 4895: 33.8gr @ 2,290 fps
IMR 3031: 30.5gr @ 2281 fps
IMR 4198: 22.5gr @ 2168 fps
Hod 4198: 23.0gr @ 2174 fps

All of those are Min loads and should be soft shooting.

Re: light loads for .30-30? [Re: Precision_Shooter] #5668673 03/25/15 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted By: Precision_Shooter
Per Hodgdons Website with 110gr bullets:

IMR 4895: 33.8gr @ 2,290 fps
IMR 3031: 30.5gr @ 2281 fps
IMR 4198: 22.5gr @ 2168 fps
Hod 4198: 23.0gr @ 2174 fps

All of those are Min loads and should be soft shooting.



And with the 60% of max load listed by hodgdon with 4895 you can go well below that starting load safely.


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Re: light loads for .30-30? [Re: Cow_doc.308] #5669706 03/26/15 04:09 AM
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awesome. thanks for the info guys.

Re: light loads for .30-30? [Re: Cow_doc.308] #5672657 03/27/15 10:05 PM
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Trail Boss works well also.


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Re: light loads for .30-30? [Re: Cow_doc.308] #5677942 03/31/15 04:38 PM
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Their is one important thing that use on my lite loads is a case filler material.
I shoot a 180 grain lead bullet in a 1903a3 Springfield with 10 grains of unique.
The filler will hold the powder against the primer for better and more accurate ignition.

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While most pistol powders are position sensitive, Unique is not. Filler not needed with Unique.


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Re: light loads for .30-30? [Re: poisonivie] #5682766 04/03/15 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted By: poisonivie
While most pistol powders are position sensitive, Unique is not. Filler not needed with Unique.


When I developed my light lead I have used filler and have gotten accurate groups.
I have found that even with a bulky powder like unique in 30/06 or AA 5744 in my 45\70 it is worth the extra time. aim

Re: light loads for .30-30? [Re: Cow_doc.308] #5683752 04/04/15 04:22 AM
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I've used one of the .7cc Lee scoops full of Titegroup behind a 110grn lead with decent accuracy out of 30-30, .308, and 30-06. I'm not sure on the exact weight of the charge.


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