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lets talk muzzle devices for ARs
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All things equal is there any significant accuracy differences in say a standard A2 flash hider and a barrel with a target crown? Trying to decide between ordering a threaded barrel or one with a target crown..
I am building a 6.8, going to go with either a 16 or 18 inch ARP barrel. This is going to be for pig hunting. I like the idea of a muzzle device so I can place the weapon muzzle down without worrying quite as much about damaging the barrel or getting debris/mud in it.
I lack a barrel, rail, and bolt so I am trying to iron that out so I can jump on a deal when one pops up.
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Re: lets talk muzzle devices for ARs
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I'd want a good crown AND threads.
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Re: lets talk muzzle devices for ARs
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02/23/15 02:52 AM
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my pig hunting buddies are running these on our ar15/10 223/308/6.5 http://www.jprifles.com/1.4.2_re.php
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Re: lets talk muzzle devices for ARs
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02/23/15 02:59 AM
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I'd want a good crown AND threads. That would be the best of both worlds. If you are pig hunting, you might end up wanting a suppressor on it later. It's hard to add a suppressor to a barrel unless it's threaded. I've shot an AR in 6.8 that was threaded and had only a thread protector. Shot great.
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Re: lets talk muzzle devices for ARs
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http://shop.jeccustom.com/AR-Compensator-JEC-AR556.htmOn my bolt guns I run a brake or suppressor. One or the other is on the end of the muzzle, all with a good crown. I use JEC brakes on the bolt guns, so that is what I would start with on an AR.
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Re: lets talk muzzle devices for ARs
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02/23/15 03:21 AM
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Running thread protector on my 6.5 Grendel
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Re: lets talk muzzle devices for ARs
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02/23/15 06:34 AM
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Re: lets talk muzzle devices for ARs
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02/23/15 02:13 PM
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If you have to choose threaded barrel or target crown, I'd choose threaded barrel based on your intended usage.
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Re: lets talk muzzle devices for ARs
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Whats intended goal for the new rifle? That is how I would determine what type of device I'd put on the end.
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Re: lets talk muzzle devices for ARs
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Whats intended goal for the new rifle? That is how I would determine what type of device I'd put on the end. A compact easy handling rifle for night-time pig hunting would be the main purpose. My 30/30 is an heirloom I don;t want to get into the wet or mud. .270 is nice but I am not getting a very quick second shot for another pig with it. I have a 20" A3 style AR that is a bit big and want a more powerful bullet. I want accuracy and I would like to place the rifle muzzle down in the truck without worrying about getting the crown damaged or a piece of mud getting down in barrel. I want something functional without looking over the top "tactical"
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Re: lets talk muzzle devices for ARs
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02/23/15 05:14 PM
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For nighttime use, I would go with a Smith Enterprises Vortex flash hider and call it good.
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Re: lets talk muzzle devices for ARs
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02/23/15 05:17 PM
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I put a levang linear compensator on my ar. The a2 was too loud for me.
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Re: lets talk muzzle devices for ARs
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You can always just go with a recessed crown if you think it would suit your purposes.
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Re: lets talk muzzle devices for ARs
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am I missing something here? can't you have a threaded barrel with a target crown??? I got two of them that do duoh
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am I missing something here? can't you have a threaded barrel with a target crown??? I got two of them that do duoh Poorley worded, what i was getting at was to have a muzzle device or not--all else equal will the flash hider do something to the forces acting on the bullet as it leaves the muzzle to affect accuracy
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Re: lets talk muzzle devices for ARs
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all else equal will the flash hider do something to the forces acting on the bullet as it leaves the muzzle to affect accuracy No it will not. Flash hider, or brake it will shoot as good as it can shoot. Add a suppressor and it may need the load tweaked due to added muzzle weight changing harmonics.
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Properly machined and installed, no muzzle device will affect the accuracy, but if shooting at night, the flash hider will at least help preserve your night vision.
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Whats intended goal for the new rifle? That is how I would determine what type of device I'd put on the end. A compact easy handling rifle for night-time pig hunting would be the main purpose. I want accuracy and I would like to place the rifle muzzle down in the truck without worrying about getting the crown damaged or a piece of mud getting down in barrel. I want something functional without looking over the top "tactical" I agree with above if you are using this for night hunting I'd get a linear compensator. In theory it will help with muzzle rise. If you really wanna stop muzzle rise/climb get a heavy barrel with a good muzzle break. But lugging around a heavy/loud AR all night can get tiring. Looks is an individual thing.
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